ACLU Sues over FISA Amendments Act of 2008

http://www.aclu.org/safefree/nsaspyi...challenge.html

In the news, the coverage has revolved around granting retroactive immunity to telecom countries that aided the government. The ACLU sees this as an expansion of the ability of the government to eavesdrop on various communications. It's a bit hard to decipher given the Bush administration has already conducted electronic surveillance without judicial review or warrants. This would seem to be a (re?) codification of these practices.

I would have to wager this goes up the food chain to SCOTUS fairly quickly.

OEC

What? Im so lost, They listened on conversations illegally?

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What? Im so lost, They listened on conversations illegally?

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By their interpretation of the law? No. Many would argue that they have violated the 4th Amendment on a massive scale, however. Thus the suit.

"I was ordered to break the law" was no excuse at Nuremberg

but it is with FISA

hasn't big brother been watching all along anyway?

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hasn't big brother been watching all along anyway?

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Certainly. Like I said, my sense is they are just "legalizing" what was happening anyways. It's bizarre what's going on to your south. Today, it appears to be socializing the risk of a large % of the mortgage market (Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac) Fucked if I know to what extent it is true.

At times I feel sorry for the few intelligent U.S. people I know cause they seem kind of stuck with 300million(that many?) very foolish people

momentum can be a bitch

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At times I feel sorry for the few intelligent U.S. people I know cause they seem kind of stuck with 300million(that many?) very foolish people

momentum can be a bitch

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I tend to see it more as just a breakdown of civil society. Public and private institutions have run amok over the citizenry.

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I tend to see it more as just a breakdown of civil society. Public and private institutions have run amok over the citizenry.

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thank god for the 2nd amendment...

when we all go mad max/doomsday/28 days later i will be ready!

well, except for the cannibalism part... not sure about that yet...

:nervous:

All you need to stop a zombie apocalypse
cyanide in tooth 242$
Double-barreled shotgun 279$
Laughing in the face of a zombie and realizing you didn't buy ammo...Priceless
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Do you believe that the society is in a decline?

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Originally Posted by J. Babington

All you need to stop a zombie apocalypse
cyanide in tooth 242$
Double-barreled shotgun 279$
Laughing in the face of a zombie and realizing you didn't buy ammo...Priceless
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Do you believe that the society is in a decline?

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i KNOW it is in decline... fought in Africa, Bosnia, Serbia, Kosovo, Iraq... etc... 20 years of that shit will fry your brain and make you believe humanity has no lower limits, i always hoped for the best and was sorely disappointed...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrd2xf5DIlU

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Originally Posted by jonny.illuminati

thank god for the 2nd amendment...

when we all go mad max/doomsday/28 days later i will be ready!

well, except for the cannibalism part... not sure about that yet...

:nervous:

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Yeah, no doubt. Glad the Supreme Court put that to rest. I'll go without the cannibalism also (I hope?) :1orglaugh