is Mickey Mouse one of Satan's soldiers?

from telegraph

Mickey Mouse is a corrupting influence and must die, a Muslim cleric has declared.


By Martin Beckford, Religious Affairs Correspondent
Last Updated: 4:04PM BST 15 Sep 2008
Mickey Mouse must die, says Saudi Arabian cleric
Sheikh Muhammad Munajid warned that depictions of the creature in cartoons such as Disney's Mickey Mouse, had taught children that it was in fact loveable Photo: Reuters

Sheikh Muhammad Munajid claimed the mouse is "one of Satan's soldiers" and makes everything it touches impure.

But he warned that depictions of the creature in cartoons such as Tom and Jerry, and Disney's Mickey Mouse, had taught children that it was in fact loveable.

The cleric, a former diplomat at the Saudi embassy in Washington DC, said that under Sharia, both household mice and their cartoon counterparts must be killed.

Mr Munajid was asked to give Islam's teaching on mice during a religious affairs programme broadcast on al-Majd TV, an Arab television network.

According to a translation prepared by the Middle East Media Research Institute, an American press monitoring service, he said: "The mouse is one of Satan's soldiers and is steered by him.

"If a mouse falls into a pot of food – if the food is solid, you should chuck out the mouse and the food touching it, and if it is liquid – you should chuck out the whole thing, because the mouse is impure.

"According to Islamic law, the mouse is a repulsive, corrupting creature. How do you think children view mice today – after Tom and Jerry?

"Even creatures that are repulsive by nature, by logic, and according to Islamic law have become wonderful and are loved by children. Even mice.

"Mickey Mouse has become an awesome character, even though according to Islamic law, Mickey Mouse should be killed in all cases."

Last month Mr Munajid condemned the Beijing Olympics as the "bikini Olympics", claiming that nothing made Satan happier than seeing females athletes dressed in skimpy outfits.

Then can one please explain this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi-c6lbFGC4

Especially since the mouse is eventually said to be MARTYRED (which means he's in HEAVEN with 72 virgins, RIGHT???)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2J3my3pOIc

I thought I'd jump in and clear a few things up before it gets messy in here with people either defending or attacking Mickey.

Firstly, Muhammad Al Munajjid is a prominent muslim scholar in Saudi Arabia, and comes from the well known Sunni strain of Islam known today as Wahabism. Their strict interpretations are well known across the Islamic world. Their most popular adherant is none other than Osama Bin laden himself.

So when it comes to interpretation, if you want the strictest interpetation on anything Islamic to do with Islamic law, then you head over to the Wahabi interpretation. They do have their good things, and I know many people who follow their brand of Islam. Some I'm fond of, others I am not like with almost every other group in society.

theres a few issues to think about here:

1) Mice/Rats in islamic law - they are referred to in arabic as "fuwaysiqa" which translated means deviant or evil. Why does it refer to rats as evil? the popular belief is that no good from it. They're unclean, they may carry diseases (black plague), they eat stored food. The reference to kill them is in regards to them being in your house. The Islamic injunction to kill mice or rats refers to when they are in your house. Now which person wouldnt kill a mouse or rodent in their house with bait or traps? (except for maybe Master Splinter)

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If a mouse falls into a pot of food – if the food is solid, you should chuck out the mouse and the food touching it, and if it is liquid – you should chuck out the whole thing, because the mouse is impure.

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Any of you saying you don't agree with this statement cause I know if a mouse/rat fell in my food even if it was someone pet that food would be going in the bin, I care not if my food is in liquid or solid form. So strictly speking on this issue Sheikh Muhammad Munajid is more forgiving towards the rodent population then I am.

2) The 2nd issue here is the cartoon mice - are they going to eat your rations? spread disease? unclean? cause havoc? none of the above - so there is no Islamic injunction that refers to cartoon mice. NONE! cartoons didnt even exist at the time of the prophet Muhammad, so theres no way he made a reference to cartoons. Therefore this is an interpretation of the sheikh going on a few sayings of the prophet Muhammad that has been extended to cartoons. Its merely someone interpretation of Islamic law, and a Wahabi interpratation at that!

so i say, dont taint the majority because of a few erring individuals.

This IS quite a silly and uncalled for I can't believe it made it into the global news. There's no conspiracy here!

I dont think that its a political issue with mice or cartoons or the influence of cartoons in the Islamic world at all. its a non issue as far as im concerned.

dude, did you see that jew eating rabbit?

that shit is awesome!

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Originally Posted by Lilly

I thought I'd jump in and clear a few things up before it gets messy in here with people either defending or attacking Mickey.

Firstly, Muhammad Al Munajjid is a prominent muslim scholar in Saudi Arabia, and comes from the well known Sunni strain of Islam known today as Wahabism. Their strict interpretations are well known across the Islamic world. Their most popular adherant is none other than Osama Bin laden himself.

So when it comes to interpretation, if you want the strictest interpetation on anything Islamic to do with Islamic law, then you head over to the Wahabi interpretation. They do have their good things, and I know many people who follow their brand of Islam. Some I'm fond of, others I am not like with almost every other group in society.

theres a few issues to think about here:

1) Mice/Rats in islamic law - they are referred to in arabic as "fuwaysiqa" which translated means deviant or evil. Why does it refer to rats as evil? the popular belief is that no good from it. They're unclean, they may carry diseases (black plague), they eat stored food. The reference to kill them is in regards to them being in your house. The Islamic injunction to kill mice or rats refers to when they are in your house. Now which person wouldnt kill a mouse or rodent in their house with bait or traps? (except for maybe Master Splinter)



Any of you saying you don't agree with this statement cause I know if a mouse/rat fell in my food even if it was someone pet that food would be going in the bin, I care not if my food is in liquid or solid form. So strictly speking on this issue Sheikh Muhammad Munajid is more forgiving towards the rodent population then I am.

2) The 2nd issue here is the cartoon mice - are they going to eat your rations? spread disease? unclean? cause havoc? none of the above - so there is no Islamic injunction that refers to cartoon mice. NONE! cartoons didnt even exist at the time of the prophet Muhammad, so theres no way he made a reference to cartoons. Therefore this is an interpretation of the sheikh going on a few sayings of the prophet Muhammad that has been extended to cartoons. Its merely someone interpretation of Islamic law, and a Wahabi interpratation at that!

so i say, dont taint the majority because of a few erring individuals.

This IS quite a silly and uncalled for I can't believe it made it into the global news. There's no conspiracy here!

I dont think that its a political issue with mice or cartoons or the influence of cartoons in the Islamic world at all. its a non issue as far as im concerned.

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Hey, I'm with the Muslim scholar..."Death to Mickey! Allah is great!" I've been wanting to get my hands around that little cartoon neck of his for years. Death to Jerry too! Tom wouldn't mind....But Ratfink? Ratfink gets to live just for the fact he drives kick ass cartoon muscle cars.

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There's no conspiracy here!

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that's exactly what a conspirator would say.

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Originally Posted by Morning Glory

that's exactly what a conspirator would say.

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Are you saying that Lilly might be secretly calling for a Jihad? :1orglaugh

That's fucked up BP.

From Lewis Blacks "Root of all evil" episode which asked "Which is more evil, Disney or Scientology"?

http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/...videoId=184402

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Then can one please explain this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi-c6lbFGC4

Especially since the mouse is eventually said to be MARTYRED (which means he's in HEAVEN with 72 virgins, RIGHT???)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2J3my3pOIc

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Ummm....Am I to believe Muslim extremists can birth huge talking mice?

well, I'm not really a fan either, although I don't see why religion has to get mixed up in it though

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Ummm....Am I to believe Muslim extremists can birth huge talking mice?

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With Allah all things are possible, effendi.

Just think of all the wonderful nightmares that creepy ass mouse Farfour gave all them little Mooselem children.


"Hiya kids, I'm dead now... that's why my eyeball's rotting out of my head, and I'm oozing green ichor all over your bed spread...."

:1orglaugh

I love shit like that. Like a high pitched gay rodent mooselem freddy krugger... :rryumy:

wait, does this mean no itchy and scratchy either?!

French mickey, American Mickey.... Now Islamic Terrorist Mickey see them all on Ice!!!!

that could that been any more western icon, Mickey is just more global icon. What next Iranian children show with big green dino! what is world coming to...

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wait, does this mean no itchy and scratchy either?!

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No Itchy, but Allah digs cats, so Scratchy will be O.K.

reminds me of the comic book Transmetropolitian. In it the second highest rated kids cartoon show (the top spot goes to Sex Puppets) is Anthrax Cat. It is about a cat that seems to be hopped up on amphetamines that does nothing but bloodily disembowel a mouse dressed up like a jihadist.

it's funny to know that it is offensive to Muslims on a whole 'nother level than originally intended.