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Ok so new members need an intro? So this is me i guess. I'm on a mission to 'find myself' and somehow that brought me to Dallas Texas. Whatever im looking for sure as fuck isn't here! I find i have no platform for expression that properly vents my pain, rage, and sensuality so my current focus is on the visual arts. Play with me.
Greetings. What does your avatar say/mean precisely?
OEC
HITLER WILL SEND NO WARNING! always carry your gas mask
What is the meaning behind it tho? Hitler is dead. The only people who may have benefitted from gas masks were jews. It seems meaningless (no offense)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cspine_ae
OEC
hey welcom to BB hope you enjoy your stay
Shadow
Welcome to BlueBlood.
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Originally Posted by OneEyedCat
are you for real?!? i'm not going for some huge meanigful statement here but the sign is a strong reminder of a very dark moment in modern history. i'm also on a gas mask kick right now so i guess i just like it. wtf is with the feline cyclopse? :cool:
:1orglaugh LOL I dont know If id be knockin the OEC he's kinda partial to his cycloptic kitty!
Welcome.
i hate when people say no offense meaning they know they just said something offensiveQuote:
Originally Posted by OneEyedCat
welcome to Blue Blood Cspine_ae
now a history lesson. if you are going to be a political activist you should know some history. i am shocked that you do not know this. hitler did not just gas or discriminate against jews. the 3rd reich discriminated against and rounded up and experimented on and/or murdered homosexuals, people diagnosed with mental illness, people diagnosed with physical disabilities, gypsies, catholics, people of darker complexion, artists, communists and unionizers and other political dissidents, and people whose families had immigrated from various other countries not enough generations prior and other groups.
the following oft-quoted words are attributed to a Pastor Martin Niemöller who thought the nazis were someone else's problem until in 1937 they came for him:
First they came for the socialists,
and I did not speak out
because I was not a socialist.
Then the came for the trade unionists,
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak for me.
versions differ on what exactly Pastor Martin Niemöller's words were, but you get the idea. Niemöller was a u-boat captain in the first world war and an initial supporter of hitler, celebrated in the press for his patriotism and bravery. he began to become unpopular with those in power when in 1933, he organized the Pastors Emergency League to protect lutheran pastors from the police. yes the lutherans might have benefited from metaphorical gas masks too. Pastor Martin Niemöller was more and more outspoken but protected by the fact that the wealthy members of his church in berlin were influential and by press interest. he ended up arrested on hitler's direct orders and found guilty of treason against the third reich and thrown in first the sachsenhausen concentration camp and then dachau. he narrowly missed execution. he was an activist when he got out and was later elected as one of the six presidents of the World Council of Churches, the ecumenical body of the Protestant faiths and received the Lenin Peace Prize and the West German Grand Cross of Merit in recognition of his work to spread understanding that we are all somewhat responsible for what we allow our society to do.
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Originally Posted by adorn_shadow
yeah, don't knock the OEC, he's the man.
Word on the street is that he was scratched by a mutant kitten when he was only five years old. The resulting infection caused him to grow retractable wolvers, increased his visual and auditory awareness and gave him an irreversible craving for feline blood.
He is being hunted by Al Qaeda (for killing and then impersonating Osama) and also by the FBI (for killing and then impersonating Colin Powell).
His obsession with one eyed cats stems from his late mother's participation in an occult religious sect from the late fifties which claimed that One Eyed Cats were best served piping hot with coriander and that hitler was in fact a jew. He has facial surgery every 6 months and is also a keen swimmer and expert diver.
I was just curious. :1orglaughQuote:
Originally Posted by Cspine_ae
OEC
[QUOTE=karyn]i hate when people say no offense meaning they know they just said something offensive
welcome to Blue Blood Cspine_ae
now a history lesson. if you are going to be a political activist you should know some history. i am shocked that you do not know this. hitler did not just gas or discriminate against jews. the 3rd reich discriminated against and rounded up and experimented on and/or murdered homosexuals, people diagnosed with mental illness, people diagnosed with physical disabilities, gypsies, catholics, people of darker complexion, artists, communists and unionizers and other political dissidents, and people whose families had immigrated from various other countries not enough generations prior and other groups.
I'm well aware of the history of the Third Reich. The first to go were disabled children. They were not gassed, however. Give me a fucking break. I'm slavic, I know the history all too well. Now, you have offended me.:thumb:
OEC
Haha :thumb: And again welcome. Was not expecting a dissertation.Quote:
Originally Posted by 23*
OEC
Here is the first evidence of actual gassing. Sterilizations and postnatal "abortions" had already commenced.
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On July 14, 1933, the Nazi government instituted the "Law for the Prevention of Progeny with Hereditary Diseases." This law, one of the first steps taken by the Nazis toward their goal of creating an Aryan "master race," called for the sterilization of all persons who suffered from diseases considered hereditary, such as mental illness, learning disabilities, physical deformity, epilepsy, blindness, deafness, and severe alcoholism. With the law's passage the Third Reich also stepped up its propaganda against the disabled, regularly labeling them "life unworthy of life" or "useless eaters" and highlighting their burden upon society.
Just a few years later, the persecution of the disabled escalated even further. In the autumn of 1939, Adolf Hitler secretly authorized a medically administered program of "mercy death" code-named "Operation T4," in reference to the address of the program's Berlin headquarters at Tiergartenstrasse 4. Between 1940 and 1941 approximately 70,000 Austrian and German disabled people were killed under the T4 program, most via large-scale killing operations using poison gas. (This methodology served as the precursor to the streamlined extermination methods of the "Final Solution.") Although Hitler formally ordered a halt to the program in late August 1941, the killings secretly continued until the war's end, resulting in the murder of an estimated 275,000 disabled people.
OEC
Why I asked: That is adapted from a poster that appeared on the eastern front and was only applicable to jews. It is clear that neither he nor Karyn were aware of this. I did not intend to start a debate over WW2 and will thus drop it.
OEC
being disabled myself (spinal cor injury) i apreciate the info. my avatar is very temporary and is not meant as a political statement.
Heya, welcome to Blue Blood. I know you will have a good time here and you are very welcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cspine_ae
If your avatar is not real important to you and it is bothering folks like OEC and karyn but you obviously do not mean it as it is being taken, could I ask you to please change it today. Thanks much and please kick off your shoes a stay a while.
It doesn't bother me, I just recognized the symbol from a poster that appeared on the Eastern Front of WW2. The meaning of the original poster related only to jews. I should not have expected people to know that automatically. It's no big deal.:thumb:Quote:
Originally Posted by AmeliaG
OEC
new avatar. OEC, its a 70's oldsmobile insignia (sp?) like the one on my '73 cutlass. it's been my baby for 10 years.
welcome, i lived in dallas for a while in the 80's. nice place but not dreary enough for me. that's why i love the pacific northwest...many beautiful gothic days. hope you enjoy your stay here.
theplague
hmm i didnt know of the original meaning of the symble till tooday when i first saw it i thought was wow a die hard olds fan but thanks to the other one eyed cat owning friend for the history lesson and yes back off of the cyclopian felines (joking) welcome to the BB
OB~26 One eyed cat owner