Recently, that term has been bandied about lately. What exactly is it?
I am thinking: Dark, Futuristic type stuff?
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Recently, that term has been bandied about lately. What exactly is it?
I am thinking: Dark, Futuristic type stuff?
Maybe one of the best examples of this kind of music could be Hocico and Cenobita... and of course many more.
It's something like Techno, or maybe Trance, but not that monoton as typical (commercial)Trance or Techno, it's darker, harder, mysteriouse, could also say futuristic sometimes.
Do you mean the story setting, or music?
I mean the music... and that typical Techno is somekind of cold... no emotions, nothing... and "Techno" Goth music expresses that darkness, sometimes creep and of course includes some great vocals, which we hardly find in ussual Techno.
I meant the story setting?
I have no idea....soem may say it's EMB even I have no idea.....who cares? just be yourself and listen to what you like....
A few terms would be ebm, electro, futurepop.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrightStar
I would suggest the metropolis label.
Oh god...more fucking labels for inane genre's...I'm gonna start making shit up and posting them all over the net.
If you hear the term Electranongothihillbillyhardpopcorerap be very afraid.
I agree.
That's what I thought when I read an interview with The Vampire Beach Babes, where they stated they don't make psychobilly, they make gothabillyQuote:
Originally Posted by Tequila Zaire
I remember when it was: top 40,rock, hard rock, soft rock, heavy metal, classical and country. I dunno what the fuck happened. If I like it, I listen to it, fuck all these labels.
It's for people who're like "Hey, I like goth rock" - "Haha, you suck. Emo rock is way better". And yes, I've heard people saying stuff like that.
It seems strange to me that goth is rock at all. It seems to me that it was originally classical music. But, hey if people want to run around in little gangs based on music and tell me what's what, I'm up for the free entertainment.Quote:
Originally Posted by postcoital
emo rock?? pfffffft post hardcore is the way to go....next will be nu-emo i reckon
back on subject though i reckon bands like Atari teenage riot, Alec Empire, VNV Nation, Aphex Twin and all similar bands are as close to techo goth as your gonna get
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Originally Posted by Sceptic_Messiah
Oh HELL no...that'd actually be worse...STEALING bands from other genre's to put into some new lamer one...that's just awful on all levels. Plus each has been around for a LONG time now and predate these new crappy labels. Alec Empire alone has stated many times he does "Digital Hardcore"...hell the named the label that after all to hammer the point home. ATR began pretty simple since they used techno, industrial, and "tips" from KMFDM like "When in doubt pretend to talk about some sort of social message." and "Never be afraid of hypocrisy, embrace it when needed." ATR's early work that hit the retail was pretty slick and not all that amazing. I loved it personally but it was nothing stand out at the time. Once Alec got bored though the live and recorded work began to mesh closer together...as seen in their 60 Second Wipeout album...that was much truer to what they had usually been playing live. Never grabbed me as being goth...at all. Alec's "solo" work has a massive range too that mixes everything from more melodic and slow works to hard, fast, and nearly undesipherable albums. Again...amazing stuff but it never grabbed me as goth. It's "Dark" but hell if that's the pre-requisite for goth music then COUNTRY is as goth as it gets...cause song for song NO genre is more depressing...(yes even more than emo)...and more violent.(tons of songs about murder for example).
Not sure what's lamer...their band name or their statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by postcoital
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HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAQuote:
Originally Posted by AmeliaG
Not so much Techno more of a hard trance. Lables and crap are so difficult. I say: if you think you can define it, you're so far off you might as well be on the moon.
K
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Originally Posted by keiko
I now love you for that statement.
:) *lil happy dance*Quote:
Originally Posted by Tequila Zaire
K
K's idea was pretty funny actually I was thinking a computer tech after a 36 hour bender fixing a firewall I would wanna stay in a dark plac eand acta nihilistic...anyhow just listen to what you want and love listening to it..ersonally if the spedometer goes up or the skateboard flies higher and faster it's good
to many different names for music that sounds the same
Well, Alec Empire descended from ATR, after they broke up, but Hanin Elias is still playing the old style (cept of a few songs on her recent album), but if I had told her she was playing techno goth, she'd have probably killed me in the moshpit :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sceptic_Messiah
I don't think you can actually define a genre for ATR, because, as Hanin once said in an interview, it's just a valve to let out all of their anger.
Other way around my friend. Alec Empire was more of a Producer/ solo artist...ATR was formed as more of a side project/ way to play with "friends" as it where. ATR was never his sole focus, same with all the members really. Even in live shows you could see this since a lot of Alec's own tastes and experiments made their way on stage. His solo work was and remains miles ahead of his ATR stuff. Hanin while interesting never really seems to push things to the next level as it where...but then I'm probably being unfair since I'm comparing her too closely to other artists in her position (like former LOA member Jade 4 U/Darling Nikkie/ 100's of other names.)Quote:
Originally Posted by postcoital
As far as the techno goth comment...hell if you'd of said that at a live show ANYONE would have killed you... :1orglaugh
Probably true, yet I knew ATR long before Alec Empire, and actually, I don't like his solo music at all. As for Hanin, I don't think she should change too much, I really adore the aggressiveness in the music.
The masses were climaxing, when she started playing In Flames on her last concert. me too :)