Can we encourage curviness, please?
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Can we encourage curviness, please?
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Indeed. The anorexia and bulimia problems have got so bad, that a sub-culture encouraging those has emerged in the past several years among young girls.
In a world(sorry to use the hackneyed phrase here)where much of the world's population has little or nothing to eat on a regular basis, the idea of voluntarily starving oneself to conform to the elite's notion of beauty isn't only saddening, it's disgusting in the extreme.
I second that motion! Nothing better than curves. Is it wrong that I found the girl in the mirror perfecting proportioned?
The girl in the mirror was definitely fuckable.
bulemia makes me want to puke.
Great your gonna start a whole chain reaction Puke-athonQuote:
Originally Posted by Morning Glory
Im half belemic, i just eat n eat, lol
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Originally Posted by Bikerpunk
I think that's kind of the point, right?
The problem I have with the whole 'help people with eating disorders' thing, is that a lot of my thin friends have to hear about how they must be bulimic all the time. The word gets thrown at them every day, even more so in my opinion than some of my heavier friends have people trying to intervene to save them from the just as likely bingeish uncontrolled appetite they supposedly must have. People seem to think it's ok, perhaps even noble, to come at thin people with that sanctimonious 'concern' all the time, and I'm not sure it's really helping anybody.
If your friends are seriously not healthy, sure, you should try to help them out, but I kind of feel like not enough people know how to identify when a friend actually has a real eating disorder.
I realize it's not an American ad spot, but America's biggest problem isn't that we're all dangerously too thin and just need to be bigger consumers. If you really want to help your friends out, just encourage them to not eat total crap all the time. Set a good example and encourage them to join you for decent healthy food and maybe give them a ring when you are thinking of going to the gym or something.
Good points, Forrest.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForrestBlack
When I was younger, I was often told that I was too thin. Now, that am in early middle age, have acquired a little bit of a belly, which ain't great, but happens as one's metabolism changes with age.
That's why, if one can, it's best to closely observe any seemingly afflicted person with anorexia or bulimia for tell-tale behaviours that they might have either condition, before approaching them about it.
Some people's metabolisms simply allow them to eat more of whatever they stuff into their faces than others, and not gain as much weight as quickly, that's all.
That doesn't mean, however, that there isn't a problem with anorexia and bulimia among young, primarily middle-class and upper-class girls and women in this country, and among some young men, as well, who are either starving themselves, or at the very least, risking their physical and mental health in order to attain some idiotic producer's, casting director's, photographer's, agent's, or ballet choreographer(am thinking of the late George Ballanchine here, who was notorious for his insistence on his ballerinas being quite thin)'s ideal of beauty.
This is occurring at the same time as, and I thank you for pointing this out, Forrest, the epidemic of obesity we currently have in this country, and in a great portion of the industrialised world, especially amongst the so-called lower classes.
That's been brought about by an unprecedented amount of cheap, but nutritionally unsound, food over the course of the last century and a half, and especially since after World War Two, and the incredible mass marketing job(read very long and large con for that)done by food processors, etc to get much of the world's public to buy such food.
Add on to that the great dependence on the automobile, especially in much of the US, for transport, and how that's affected urban design over the past half-century, etc, etc, and, well, I think you see my point.
Heavier car dependence, prevalence of cheap but nutritionally unsound food, urban design that favours car use over mass transit, bicycle riding or walking, and a host of other factors as well have combined to create an obesity epidemic in the US, Canada, Australia, Britain, Germany, and am sure there are a few other places that I don't know about as well right now that have it, too.
At the same time, in most of the so-called Third World, as well among sizable minorities of working-class and poor people in the industrialised world, the problem is one of both inadequate amounts of food to get through a given day, week or month, or, in the worst cases, acute malnutrition or outright starvation.
The reasons for those situations are both well-known and too numerous for me to go into without making this reply even more horrifically long than it already is, so I won't.
Suffice to say, all of these problems, although they have different causes and effects, are ultimately equally noxious and disgraceful to any society that even remotely claims to value even a single human life.
Starvation, whether because of crop failure, grossly skewed economic and political systems that favour a small elite at everyone else's expense, or to achieve some ideal of beauty promulgated by the cultural powers that be, is, in my view, obscene in a way that even the worst profanities and blasphemies can't even touch.
Can't say that I speak for others on this. I speak only for myself, as is right and proper for me to claim. Anything else would be egotistical.
Sorry for the long-ass response here, Forrest, and hope it doesn't over-try your patience to wade through it.
Just remember to put on your galoshes before doing so:1orglaugh .
Generally speaking, I've actually found people who do have anorexia or bulimia are quite open about it. I can see where thin folks (and heavy folks) both are subjected to stereotypes. I won't touch on the nutritional patterns in the U.S., as I think they are both varied and well-documented in areas that need improvement ie "fast food" consumed in excess by some.
Jackie T
Somehow, considering that more than 1/2 of Americans are dangerously over weight and most have several weight related diseases from adult onset diabetes to heart disease, I sincerly doubt that our problem in the states is that people are entirely too skinny.
On the other hand, I myself am sick of ppl telling me I need to eat. If I eat any more, I'll explode. It's not that I'm afraid of getting fat, as it is i'm a little soft in places, I'm not happy with it, but I'm okay with it. It's that I can only eat so much at one sitting! I'm not the kind of person that can eat an entire super sized meal, and yet i see ppl everyday, at every sitting eat twice that much.
What we need, is to find a happy medium, where everyone is comfortable with being who they are, without being anorexic/bulimic or obese. But ads like these further the stereotype that all thin girls are sick while the general media goes out of its way to say that we all have to look like Twiggy.
I say we need to stop advertising how to make snap judgments about other people and ourselves.
I could go on and on, but I don't think I will.
~K
ps - I second the "the chick in the mirror is cute" thing
People need to understand these diseases are based on behavior rather than just being a given size. I would imagine it being hard to detect in a large-framed person. I'm about 6' with wide shoulders. I doubt anyone could discern a 20 pound weight gain or loss or why just looking at me (I eat well, don't worry folks) Conversely, a naturally petite person will be subjected to immediate suspicion. It is a matter of not eating and/or purging. That and a person getting the proper nutrition should be the only relevant factors. I don't doubt that many people would not be able to discern without knowing the actual eating habits of a given person.Quote:
Originally Posted by keiko
Jackie T