the comic book thread!

[malcolm]

hows that,mg? lol

[malcolm]

right i guess this need a topic no? okay well its a continuation of sorts semi topic focus is encouraged cus i tend to talk random and love to actively respond as such is the flow of conversation i thinks. anyways we were talking about how alot of the major comic companies these days have begun cross promoting for other "rival" companies stuff i;e: darkhorse having banner sup for the watchmen animated comic on dvd and ghost rider being promoted in some vertigo titles
you could also throw on there alot of the companies promoting the starwars heroclix too since darkhorse owns the rights to the starwars comic books andmost fo the characters in the heroclix line are from the comics (i.e cade skywalker, assaj ventriss,darth malice etc.)
anyways yeah.
that be where the topic goes where she stops? nobody knows. tee hee!

[Morning Glory]

I don't know anything about heroclix.

I'm pretty out of the loop for comics these days. But speaking of Star Wars and Dark Horse, this summer they are going to be making a new series, I believe it's called Invasion, that takes place during the New Jedi Order storyline. I am going to pick that one up.

They also had a cross-over story that spanned across all the major series from KTOR up to Legacy. I don't know how that works, that's like 2,000 years or more. time travel maybe? I dunno, but I'd like to pick up the collection of that one.

oh yeah, and still speaking of DH, I have pretty much all the old Aliens collections, so right now I'm re-reading those. Not exactly an Indie company, but I think they completely blow the Big Two out of the water.

[malcolm]

they have so far in movies atleast, darkhorse i mean lol. i've never really gotten much into the whole starwars stuff. i like a few characters, mostly all sith and the mandolerians (bobba fett, jango) i wanna see about cosplaying as assaj ventriss someday though. shes one of my favorites. and yeah, darkhorse has got some really good titles out right now. the goon, umbrella academy was pretty good and even some decent horror mangas like kurosagi corpse delivery service which is being made into a movie and mail which was made into a movie but apparently not a good one.

[Morning Glory]

Marvel has lately been coming out with better stories than DC. DC has just fucked everything up, there storylines are a big mess that make no sense. They are going to kill off Batman? Ok. good luck with that.

but the thing that really pisses me off is all the nonsense the past few years with variant covers. it's the same exact shite as holograms and foils in the 90's. those things were stupid and they killed the collectors market by artificially inflating worthless books.

The whole point of those are supposed to be retailers incentives. because of the previously mentioned fuck-up, the comics "bubble burst" and no one wants to order a bunch of back issues that they can't sell. Well, so they put in a variant rare cover 1 in ten, and rarer 1 in 25, so that comic stores will order those 25 or 50 books and customers will want to come in and buy the issues.

That's cool, I'm fine with that. and that worked great in "my day". You'd go in first thing and riffle through the stack and get the good ones. or you didn't, but you were in the shop and you bought the issue anyway and a couple more while you were at it.

But now these greedy fucks are pulling the variants and pre-selling them, before the issues even hit the stands at an already jacked up price. you can get next months rare for 15 bucks, ultra raer for 25...on a 3 or 4 buck cover price. it's bullshit.

Even worse are the convention exclusives, which are usually just cheap reprintings anyway, like a black and white cover. And you will see them going on ebay, the same day as the convention. and often they are door freebies, and the price they are charging for them is more than the cost of the convention ticket! which anyone could have paid for and got the comic plus several others for a cheaper price.

[Morning Glory]

oh yeah, and when they have a hit series, like marvel zombies, that they don't expect to do well, and it sells out and then you can't find it anywhere. and no one wants to pay 30 bucks for a comic that came out last month, so they are reprinting the series while it's still in it's original production run. they put out like 4 editions of issue number one by the time they were on issue ten. ridiculous.

[malcolm]

yeah i know. when i worked at atomic, we'd have like five different variant covers and not just the big names either. idw did it for tank girl, the gifting as well as this zombie comic which is crazy i dont remember the name of it cus i have all the issues to it lol it wasnt very rememorable apparently. there are a few people who still pimp out ultra-rare covers though. i know jim balent at broadsword does from time to time talk his wife holly g into donning the blackrose witch armor for covers to special issues (atleast i think it's his wife.... i know he does the skeleton man modeling lol)

and omy godess yes! those hologram covers got fucking ridiculous! and not to mention things like when comic book artists will go back years later and reprint the issue in an even rare format than the original one like todd mcfarlane did with spawn no.1 when he reprinted it in 3-d for a museum opening taking his original spawn no.1 from being around a hundred bucks in value back to twenty.

and yeah the price has gotten flat out retarded too. i remember when you used ot be able to go into a comic shop with ten bucks and you could come out with ashitload of comics even back issues! but now....you're lucky if you can afford two titles on a tenspot even ashcans have gone up to three bucks a pop and those are ashcans! some titles though i think i'll still buy no matter how mucht hey copst. like tarot, i like the series and they have little submitted spells in the back from fellow sisters, nothing too hardcore just little things like home cleansings etc.

[Morning Glory]

Are you thinking of The Walking Dead? pretty quality book.

(ha. sorry to make this the comic bitching thread!) that's why I'm pretty much done with comics. they've taken all the fun out of it.

usually at a con they'll have artists that do signings and they'll do sketches for you, and if you want them to draw up something special, give them five or ten bucks and they'll do it. Well, last time I was there Adam Hughes was doing drawings and he was charging like 50, 60 bucks. and you write down what you want and he'll send it to you in the mail, you don't even get so see him doing it or how it looks! So my friend goes up to him and says, "Hey Adam, for 20 bucks will you draw me a stick figure? How much to you want for a connect the dots?"

I think it was that same time that Joe Quesada, he's got way more rep than Hughes as far as I'm concerned, he was doing drawings, and that was kind of a rare thing. Not just sketches, he was going all out, doing amazing shit. I saw him take an hour to do one of them. The guy was taking forever. We had a guy that just stood there in line all day, the whole time, but he was there all day doing it for everyone that wanted one. Finally he had to speed it up a little bit, but everything he did was one of a kind.

[malcolm]

nah walking dead is by image lol i read that one it's pretty epic yeah. and adam hughes was charign fifty bucks? pffft fuk that. the guy draws catwoman for crying outloud and yeah his stuff is alright but it's mostly because of the after touches, color, inks etc. not the actual lineart. and joe quesada definately gets more cred lol they even made a reference to him in the daredevil movie and daredevil trumps catwoman anyday. i got pissed at arthur suydam out here cus like all he does is paint coverart for comics. he's been doing it since the late eighties, he did the original alien covers and a few conan/red sonja covers and is more known now for the marvel zombies series. anyway my beef was i got an autograph from him in my marvel zombies hardcover the first time i met him and even a quick skull drawing but the next time i met him he wanted twenty bucks and he was only gonna sign crap at his booth that you had to buy there which is like ridiculous markup if you ask me. i mean i dont mind paying for an autograph if it's like via a donation to the hero initiative fund or something but it's just retarded for crap like that. i got respect for s.s crompton though. he's here eveyr year and only charges like fifty cents a copy for back issues of his carnal comics line and was even talking about the demi the deoness movie when it was being made. it's a soft core porn lol

[Morning Glory]

what's that fucked up comic called? oh, have you seen Faust? I met that guy before, that was pretty entertaining. all the guys that draw naked chicks and demons are funny.

that's lame that art suydam was acting like that. I saw him and he was being cool, nobody even knew who he was. I wanted to get him to sign one of my marvel zombies, but I didn't know that he was going to be there, so I didn't bring any.

[malcolm]

im gonna check my long box real fast.......aha! it was called raise the dead and it was dynamite that did not idw like i said it was earlier my bad. basically it was weird bunch of people survive a zombie invasion (dont they all end up that way?) and it kinda did flashbacks of all of em that cover most fo the issues. but suydam did the covers for those too but he did like popart and album art designs zombified. and yeah suydam was cool but the second time he wouldnt even talk to anyone it was that chick he always has with him who normally just stamps an authenticity seal on the signatures that was doing all the talking. it hink its his wife i dunno

we talking faust as in the opera or the comic? and nah i havent seent he comic. i dont get out much lol

i tell ya who is pretty cool though, jhonen vasquez! he was at atomic new years eve 2007 signing autographs i got a copy of johnny #4 signed by him awesome guy. didnt charge a dime.

[Morning Glory]

naw, not the opera. the comic. they made a shitty movie loosely based on it called something like Faust: love of the damned.

that's cool that you got to meet him. I was going to see him once, but I missed him or he didn't show up, or I didn't know what time he was going to be there. well, whatever it was, I never did.

I've seen mcfarlane a few times, but never got talk to him. I drew a picture of him getting his penis bitten off by bats, I wonder if he'd sign it?

[malcolm]

probably not i heard hes a real deuche to people. and yeah jhonen was cool. he's really skinny though. almost as skinny as the way he draws people.

[OliX]

To bad Alan Ford wasn't translated to English.

[malcolm]

im sure you can find it online translated somewhere.
i found a digital copy of the "power-fuck girls" online translated into english. it was originally in spanish. it was a spanish comic's porn parody of the power puff girls except the girls were all grown up and really curvey :p

[OliX]

I had collection of over 300+ Alan Fords. Everything that was out by that time. And I was only nine then Unfortunately that war happened and I had to leave it all. It wasn't only Alan Ford, it was a huge Fantom, Dilan Dog, Marty Mystery etc etc collection. My father was into Freak Brothers and Fritz the Cat.

[malcolm]

neato. i understand the missing books from your younger years thing too. i lost half o my old collection, the half i actually read thorugh water damage and time unfortunately.

kids dont think too much into the importance of plastic bags and bristol boards i guess.

[malcolm]

speaking of comics lol i just finished working on the first page of one fo mine lol im gonna see about formatting it as a black and white semi censored version and a colored uncensored version. here's a sample lolit's gonna be done in pencil,no inking./light inking maybe in some areas. i kinda like how it looks like that.

[Morning Glory]

pretty cool. kinda makes me think of robert crumb. although I do think that you should learn to ink if you want to do comics. I'd say it's a must more than coloring.

[malcolm]

oh i can ink it's just my lineart looks much better than inking lol

plus
mixed media art has really started to leak itself into the comic industry too. ashley wood does nothing but mixed media and i think it's herobear? that's all pencil work too.

but im kinda going with a low budget horror movie kinda feel to the look of the book and the grainyness of the pencil work helps a little i think

it's probably just gonna be an ashcan book anyway thuogh.

[Morning Glory]

we fear change

[malcolm]

sometimes change becomes text book standards.
take tom savinni for example, before he came along his gags had never been thought of but now.....you can see em at haunted houses everywhere

[Deadly Envy]

I'm a big fan of Cry for Dawn by Michael Lisnser. Mainly because I like his art work and I simply find that chick HOT as hell.

I also like Metal Gear Solid comic. The art work are so awesome!

[malcolm]

ever checked out xxxombies?it's fucking hillarious, zombie invasion set in the 1970s around a cast of porn actors doing a shoot in some guys' boyfriends townhouse outside of hollywood. ron jeremy gets his dick bit off in it. fucking epic.

[Morning Glory]

I know. that's just what I like. old school.

cry for dawn is pretty cool. I've never read the MGS comics, aren't they just basically adaptations of the video games? now if they took the characters and had them in a different story, that i'd like to see.

[malcolm]

last christmas was pretty badass too. rick remender's got a sick sense of humor lol honestly, i could picture them making last christmas into a movie it would be pretty epic.

[Deadly Envy]

I know. that's just what I like. old school.

cry for dawn is pretty cool. I've never read the MGS comics, aren't they just basically adaptations of the video games? now if they took the characters and had them in a different story, that i'd like to see.

Yeah I have bunches of cry for dawn stuff back at mom's house. I cant wait to get them back. I LOVE the art work!!!
MGS is pretty much like video game. But I like them because I like art work and I used to be a big fan of Snake until I played MGS 3. Once I played MGS 3 and learn more about Big Boss and Volgin, I pretty much stop consider Snake to be a bad ass.
I wish there are a comic book on Big Boss.

May I should look it up...

[malcolm]

do you know if the bloodrayne comic is any good? been curious about it but i dont normally check out videogame based comics