Hate to do it but..Political Rant time.

[Velvet-Tongue]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/1..._n_136484.html

Bottom video fills me with over whelming joy.

Oh how I hate and loathe the spin and bullshit of the election this year. McCains eager, retard like flailing. How stupid does he really think we all are? You sure are the bad boy of government Mr. Maverick. Fuck. Off.

And Palin? Its just too easy. The people that eat her shit up make me want to shoot myself.

ANYWAY NIGHT ALL

[a_small_death]

Well as it is late and my brain is too dead to come up with some witty banter here is a video that i think says it all.

[Buster Friendly]

I think this special message of hope, and joy will make us all feel better.

[Ubiquitress]

ahh thank you buster friendly that just made my morning lol!!!

[ForrestBlack]

I think this special message of hope, and joy will make us all feel better.

I really didn't see that coming.

[Jax]

Im for McCain/Palin.

But this is pretty funny nonetheless...

[jonny.illuminati]

Im for McCain/Palin.

But this is pretty funny nonetheless...

yay!

PALIN 2012

[Ajax Knucklebones]

[Buster Friendly]

creepy...and hilarious

http://www.break.com/index/unbelieva...dance-off.html

[One Eyed Cat]

As long as the dollar keeps strengthening via other currencies and gas prices keep going down, they can all just go fuck themselves. It's clear to me both parties are completely inept. I want my FDIC guarantees and a strong dollar. The other issues I care about are disabilitiy issues, GLBT, animals etc. They aren't really fiscal in a conventional sense. I do wish everyone well though, it will be rough. I will be ready come what may.

OEC

[Toe Cutter]

I've been telling that joke non-stop! I was going to post it, but Jax beat me to the punch.

[Mr Karl]

As long as the dollar keeps strengthening via other currencies and gas prices keep going down, they can all just go fuck themselves. It's clear to me both parties are completely inept. I want my FDIC guarantees and a strong dollar. The other issues I care about are disabilitiy issues, GLBT, animals etc. They aren't really fiscal in a conventional sense. I do wish everyone well though, it will be rough. I will be ready come what may.

OEC

yeah, I just can't figure why the greenbacks are so popular..............

[inox]

"I look at these people and can't quite believe that they exist. Are they professional actors? I wonder. Or are they simply laymen who want a lot of attention? To put them in perspective, I think of being on an airplane. The flight attendant comes down the aisle with her food cart and, eventually, parks it beside my seat. "Can I interest you in the chicken?" she asks. "Or would you prefer the platter of shit with bits of broken glass in it? To be undecided in this election is to pause for a moment and then ask how the chicken is cooked."

- Author David Sedaris, on undecided voters

[Velvet-Tongue]

Just curious why Jax is for McCain/Palin. Not ribbing you or anything as I believe everyone has the right to vote for who they believe in. But still, why?

[Jax]

Because I hate hate hate Obama. That man is scarey and is too ignorant to run this country. Especially in the state its in.

[Ajax Knucklebones]

When you say ignorant do you mean not enough experience or that he doesn't know enough about politics...Or both?

What scares you about him?

McCain scares me in just the fact that he's Republican and seriously in the last 8 years of a Republican running the show, I can't see one area where we have anything better or even the same as before a Republican got into office. Having another Republican in office scares the shit out of me. I know he's a conservative and not right wing like Bush, but I don't care. I say give some else 4 years and see what they can do with it. If they also do a shitty job well, at least we tried something new. Vote again and elect some one else. I truthfully don't think Obama could make it worse...All the countries hate us, the economy is in the shitter, terrorist membership has only risen in the last eight years, Bin Laden is still not caught, and we can stay in Iraq or get out, but I don't think that it will ever have any civil rest there based on how many different factions of Muslims that live there and how much they all hate each other. I'm just tired of trying something old and just the fact that McCain is Republican wreaks to me of something old.

[Buster Friendly]

Because I hate hate hate Obama. That man is scarey and is too ignorant to run this country. Especially in the state its in.

Hahahaha, I still disagree with almost everything you have to say.

It's good to have you back Jax.

Don't ever leave us again.

[Jax]

Ajax- Do you actually have any real reasons besides McCains party on why you dislike him as our choice?

Heres a summary for Obama and my stance. Theres much more but Im tired and dont care to get into a super political discussion.

I guess lack of experience, belonging to a racist church, and wife who hates america are the biggest things. No military experience as well. Not to mention I really dont think he will last that long if he does get into office, but I could be wrong. Plus hes a socialist and for more government, and I REALLY dislike the more government stance. More taxes for businesses means driving the costs up for the consumers, you and me, so they can give non workers healthcare and give more money to the lazy welfare milkers. That and he wants to start diplomatic relations with rogue terrorist supporting states. He doesnt want to drill American oil, which leaves us still dependant on the middle east and high gas costs. He is going to make bad, inexperienced decisions on foreign affairs and is completely unfit to be the Commander in Cheif of the armed forces. Quite frankly, I feel as though hes more worried about taking care of the lazy and illegal immigrants instead of supporting winning the war and helping us out of this recession. Hes going to give Iran all the power in the Middle East and start diplomatic relations with them so we can keep feeding off their oil, not to mention he has NO idea about foreign affairs.

And BF- Thanks, I think;p and Ill try not to, haha.

[Morning Glory]

the chicken and shit with glass comparison was off base, IMO. it's more like shit with glass and then plain old shit. one is better than the other, but it still doesn't taste good.

it always amazes me that everyone votes for one guy simply because he's not the other guy. it's pretty brilliant really, they get to screw us and people just eat it up and play right into it.

[Lady Alias]

I guess lack of experience, belonging to a racist church, and wife who hates america are the biggest things. No military experience as well. Not to mention I really dont think he will last that long if he does get into office, but I could be wrong. Plus hes a socialist and for more government, and I REALLY dislike the more government stance. More taxes for businesses means driving the costs up for the consumers, you and me, so they can give non workers healthcare and give more money to the lazy welfare milkers. That and he wants to start diplomatic relations with rogue terrorist supporting states. He doesnt want to drill American oil, which leaves us still dependant on the middle east and high gas costs. He is going to make bad, inexperienced decisions on foreign affairs and is completely unfit to be the Commander in Cheif of the armed forces. Quite frankly, I feel as though hes more worried about taking care of the lazy and illegal immigrants instead of supporting winning the war and helping us out of this recession. Hes going to give Iran all the power in the Middle East and start diplomatic relations with them so we can keep feeding off their oil, not to mention he has NO idea about foreign affairs.

I think you left out the part about being a baby-killing Arab.

[Morning Glory]

I think you left out the part about being a baby-killing Arab.

I may not agree with your infanticidal ways, but I will fight to do the death to protect them.

"Oh say can you see..."

[Buster Friendly]

Doodz, don't trash the baby killing muslin terrerist shit.

that's the only stuff I can get behind in this election cycle.

Fetus Fritters for EVERYBODY!!

[Morning Glory]

mm. baby back ribs. for real.

[Buster Friendly]

mm. baby back ribs. for real.

[Toe Cutter]

I don't trust any politician. I am so sick of this election and tired of politics in general. I can't wait for it to be over.

[Jax]

I think you left out the part about being a baby-killing Arab.

Better than saying I wont vote for him because hes black.

[Bikerpunk]

I'm not saying you're bigoted...

I'm just saying a lot of bigots are using that excuse.


As for voting Republican for smaller government, euhhhhh the size of the government has gone way up under Dubya. Need I remind you that Homeland Security, spooks and the army are technically governmental?

[Velvet-Tongue]

Was your whole political reality built from McCain political ads?

[Blitz]

no matter which one of the fucking douchebags wins,sorry to say, you americans unfortunately are still fucked, not to say americans are bad people, but your government is"SOOOO FUCK'EN FUCKED UP", just like all governments are, you have to realize that no matter who wins that their not gonna give a shit about you,not one fuck'en bit,they never did,they never will.

[Morning Glory]

I like this guy.

[inox]

Ajax- Do you actually have any real reasons besides McCains party on why you dislike him as our choice?

Not that you asked, but for me, there's just no way I could vote for ticket that includes a fundie like Palin. Having her one heartbeat from the Presidency scares the shit out of me. She'd set us back decades with her religious tyranny and bigotry.

Also, McCain is much like Bush, but with a fouler temper. Here's a lot of reasons why he sucks: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mobtown...7594376430468/

I like Obama a great deal, but I'd vote for Idi Amin before I'd vote for the McCain/Palin ticket.

[Ajax Knucklebones]

Ajax- Do you actually have any real reasons besides McCains party on why you dislike him as our choice?

Heres a summary for Obama and my stance. Theres much more but Im tired and dont care to get into a super political discussion.

I guess lack of experience, belonging to a racist church, and wife who hates america are the biggest things. No military experience as well. Not to mention I really dont think he will last that long if he does get into office, but I could be wrong. Plus hes a socialist and for more government, and I REALLY dislike the more government stance. More taxes for businesses means driving the costs up for the consumers, you and me, so they can give non workers healthcare and give more money to the lazy welfare milkers. That and he wants to start diplomatic relations with rogue terrorist supporting states. He doesnt want to drill American oil, which leaves us still dependant on the middle east and high gas costs. He is going to make bad, inexperienced decisions on foreign affairs and is completely unfit to be the Commander in Cheif of the armed forces. Quite frankly, I feel as though hes more worried about taking care of the lazy and illegal immigrants instead of supporting winning the war and helping us out of this recession. Hes going to give Iran all the power in the Middle East and start diplomatic relations with them so we can keep feeding off their oil, not to mention he has NO idea about foreign affairs.

And BF- Thanks, I think;p and Ill try not to, haha.

Nope. Just watching the Republican party in charge for the last 8 years does it for me. I'm actually independent. Under Reagan (under Republican), I thought for 8 years he did (or the Republican party) did a good job...Except for the deficit he created. The problem though is it's not the same Republican party. That's a whole generation ago. Like I said in my last comment, watching the country seem to totally go down the shitter is enough for me. Yes, McCain would have different people in charge than Bush, but essntially they're all from the same group....Republican. With this in mind, I say give a different party a chance to see what they can do. As an Independent what I've seen is Reagan was a pretty good president and so was Clinton. They BOTH made mistakes, but in the end, as Americans, we did O.K. Since I've been on Earth, those are the only good presidents that have done good. Clinton left in 2000. Reagan left in 1988. So...Clinton is the closer of the two to last rule and he was of the Democratic. So, like I said...I'll give the Dems another shot and see if they can do the trick. If Obama sucks, maybe next time I'll choose a Republican. Who knows.

Also...From what Lady Alias says, it's true. Don't believe everything you see on T.V. or read on the 'puter. Do some investigating on your own through various biased and unbiased artilcles and form your own view of Obama and McCain. The commercials they show (for each candidate) are so full of shit that it wreaks. That's all part of the game. Do some digging to see how truthful they are.

Like I said before, Joe the Plumber, since they've made such a big deal of him (who doesn't even own a business and btw...Since I am a banker and a lender, knows he wouldn't get a loan for a business since he's a first time owner and owes back taxes) is definietly not your average small business owner. Business owners do a wonderful trick when doing taxes...They deduct EVERYTHING...So they actually might have made over $250K but let me tell you....That's not what they're tax returns say so they wouldn't be part of the big time owners. Could that raise the price of goods...Sure, if not for the fact that what your going to see in the next two years is deflation. Things will be alot cheaper because so many people will not have money to buy expensive stuff. It happened after 9/11 and it's about to happen again. Recession has a way of doing that.

As far as you picking McCain...More power to ya. It's your American right to choose who you want for president. I'm just letting you know why I'm picking Obama.

And no matter how you look at it...Remember this...Jax rocks! I don't really know you, but I'm glad you're back!

[mystoo]

I don't know shit about American politics but it's slightly entertaining. Circus like even.
We just had an election in Canada. Lowest voter turnout ever I think and in the end, not a fucking thing changed.

[grebo]

No military experience as well.

how much military experience did Bush Jr have hiding in the national guard while the poor went off to fight a war that was later admitted to being unwinnable by those who sent the soldiers off to fight?

they can give non workers healthcare and give more money to the lazy welfare milkers.

in any system there will be people milking the system. wouldnt you prefer a healthier population who dont have to go into debt to pay a doctors bill

That and he wants to start diplomatic relations with rogue terrorist supporting states.

and sending troops has worked so well in the past? the republicans have a dodgy reputation for backing military coups and their subsequent governments eg burma, pakistan, etc etc. Whats the difference?

Quite frankly, I feel as though hes more worried about taking care of the lazy and illegal immigrants instead of supporting winning the war

if it wasnt for the cheap illegal immigrant labor the american economy would go down the toilet,
are you talking about european, australian and new zealanders or asian, south asian and mexicans?

[grebo]

im sick of dickheads saying Palin is hot and making the Obama/Osama reference
id hate to think how bad itd be in the USA, id be smackin heads left and right out of frustration from bad jokes

[Jax]

I'm not saying you're bigoted...

I'm just saying a lot of bigots are using that excuse.


As for voting Republican for smaller government, euhhhhh the size of the government has gone way up under Dubya. Need I remind you that Homeland Security, spooks and the army are technically governmental?

Im sorry if youre too slow to see that this thread has already turned into an idiotic and assuming thread. Baby killing whatever blah blah blah. Hey why dont you all just put words in my mouth.

And do you all know how many people are voting Obama JUST because hes black...even when McCains policies are equated with Obama? Lol, I have a funny, funny clip from NY if any of you wanna hear it.

GO MCCAIN...I love Sarah Palin.

And were you on the boards the last election? Im pretty sure (correct me if Im wrong) the majority were for Bush. I was VERY much against him. I hate Bush, didnt vote for him in either election...haha!

[Jax]

Not that you asked, but for me, there's just no way I could vote for ticket that includes a fundie like Palin. Having her one heartbeat from the Presidency scares the shit out of me. She'd set us back decades with her religious tyranny and bigotry.

Also, McCain is much like Bush, but with a fouler temper. Here's a lot of reasons why he sucks: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mobtown...7594376430468/

I like Obama a great deal, but I'd vote for Idi Amin before I'd vote for the McCain/Palin ticket.

I like old men with foul tempers. It turns me on.

[ForrestBlack]

And were you on the boards the last election? Im pretty sure (correct me if Im wrong) the majority were for Bush. I was VERY much against him. I hate Bush, didnt vote for him in either election...haha!

A lot of people would have liked to see McCain run in that election.

[Jax]

how much military experience did Bush Jr have hiding in the national guard while the poor went off to fight a war that was later admitted to being unwinnable by those who sent the soldiers off to fight?

Now please, who the FUCK ever said I voted Bush Jr? Lol, I was so against him I could stab any idiot who said they would vote for him...lol, I was right!

in any system there will be people milking the system. wouldnt you prefer a healthier population who dont have to go into debt to pay a doctors bill

Nope I expect people to get off their asses and work. Excuse the hell outta me for getting sick and tired of financially raising other peoples children and paying for their food/utilities/rent/cars/cell phones/medical bills while I can barely pay mine. Do you know how long its been since Ive seen a doctor? And do you know that its about 90% likely I have skin cancer? But I cant afford my med bills...why the hell should I have to pay for some lazy ass to go into the ER for a cold?

and sending troops has worked so well in the past? the republicans have a dodgy reputation for backing military coups and their subsequent governments eg burma, pakistan, etc etc. Whats the difference?

Only republicans? Hmmm.....

if it wasnt for the cheap illegal immigrant labor the american economy would go down the toilet,
are you talking about european, australian and new zealanders or asian, south asian and mexicans?

Thats the biggest load of bullshit EVER. So we have to lower our pay expectations so some asshole that crosses the border illegally can get free health care, free housing and make shit doing a job so they can send it to another country and not have to pay taxes like any other american? WOW. Thats whats wrong with our country. Lets just give all the illegals the min wage paying jobs, cause you know, if you dont have the money to go to school you can always milk the welfare system. *rolling eyes*

[Jax]

A lot of people would have liked to see McCain run in that election.

You are absolutely right. Thank you for bringing that up. Now McCain is running and people are saying hes a horrible choice?

I dont get it.

I really really hope McCain wins. Regardless of Sarah Palin (and Lol Biden is just as old and cranky and mean as McCain) McCain is a wonderful candidate.