Zombie vs.Vampire films

[Nos]

Which do you think is better?

I think the zombie genre has a higher number of hits. The vampires tend to have a lot of missed opportunities. However when a vampire film is good, it's really good! The zombie can be a little one note.

Of course you could just split the difference and watch a demon movie

My top 2 favorite zombie flicks:
- ZOMBIE by Lucio Fulci
- Dawn of the Dead by George A. Romero

My top 2 vampire flicks:
- Martin by George A. Romero
- Nosferatu + Shadow of the Vampire (toss up)
By F.W. Murnau and E.Elias Merhige

My top 2 demon flicks:
- The Demons by Laurence Merrick
- Night Of The Demons by Kevin Tenney



What do you think ?

[Ajax Knucklebones]

I always saw Martin as more of a nut job than a movie vampire.

[Raza]

I haven't seen Martin, but I can't really think of any vampire movies that stuck with me on the same level that quite a few zombie movies did, by a number of different virtues. Return o/t Living Dead 1 and 3 for cool counterculture elements, the original Dawn of the Dead for sheer zombie pwning fun-ness, Resident Evil 1 and 3 for laser hallway massacres and post-apocalyptic atmosphere and Planet Terror for excess of creative gore are each all-time favorites, with a huge number of others being just solid fun.

Vampires have what; Interview with the Vampire? Which ranks roughly with the many 'solid fun' zombie flicks. From Dusk Till Dawn 1 struggles hard to meet that level. Let the Right One In hasn't even stuck with me enough since I watched it after Rockwulf's thread that I could remember its title without looking.

Demons have Hellraiser though, which as a series ranks upthere with Romero's ... of the Dead. Beats vampires, I think.

[OliX]

Give me a Alien and a Ninja in a movie and I'm even buying franchise.

[Velvet-Tongue]

Man I dont know. Zombies and Vampires are both awesome when done right. I think vampires suffer from cheese factor alot easier though. Theres too many different views of what is a vampire so you end up with great stuff (Underworld) and horrible stuff like Twilight.

Hmm..

Top 2 Vampire Movies:
Underworld
Interview with a Vampire

Top 2 Zombie Movies:
Land of the Dead - Im a sucker for post apocalyptic stuff and zombies..so this puts them both together.

28 days later - people can say fast zombies are lame but they sure are fucking scary.

[Ajax Knucklebones]

Man I dont know. Zombies and Vampires are both awesome when done right. I think vampires suffer from cheese factor alot easier though. Theres too many different views of what is a vampire so you end up with great stuff (Underworld) and horrible stuff like Twilight.

Hmm..

Top 2 Vampire Movies:
Underworld
Interview with a Vampire

Top 2 Zombie Movies:
Land of the Dead - Im a sucker for post apocalyptic stuff and zombies..so this puts them both together.

28 days later - people can say fast zombies are lame but they sure are fucking scary.

I've always like post apocalyptic movies and zombie movies, but I don't think they're so great when you put them together, simply for the fact that any "scare" thrill is gone because who cares if zombies roam the Earth after a apocalypse. We'll all probably be dead already. I saw Land of The Dead twice. It wasn't bad, but since it's in the future and not in the present as "Night", "Dawn", or "28" were, it just kind of takes away some of that freaky factor. I mean...We know there is no such things as zombies, but when it's done in the present, there's just that little thought where you go..."Yeah, but what if?"

[Ajax Knucklebones]

I haven't seen Martin, but I can't really think of any vampire movies that stuck with me on the same level that quite a few zombie movies did, by a number of different virtues. Return o/t Living Dead 1 and 3 for cool counterculture elements, the original Dawn of the Dead for sheer zombie pwning fun-ness, Resident Evil 1 and 3 for laser hallway massacres and post-apocalyptic atmosphere and Planet Terror for excess of creative gore are each all-time favorites, with a huge number of others being just solid fun.

Vampires have what; Interview with the Vampire? Which ranks roughly with the many 'solid fun' zombie flicks. From Dusk Till Dawn 1 struggles hard to meet that level. Let the Right One In hasn't even stuck with me enough since I watched it after Rockwulf's thread that I could remember its title without looking.

Demons have Hellraiser though, which as a series ranks upthere with Romero's ... of the Dead. Beats vampires, I think.

The Hellraiser series was good for me mostly because whenever there is shown some description of Hell in movies, there's always some big-horned devil with fire engulfing everything. With Hellraiser, it's like you think, "If there is a Hell, I could actually believe these are the kind of pain-inducing creatures that would be roaming there."

[Aza]

I'm not sure if the two can be compared. I mean, what exactly was the last Vampire flick that actually tried to be a "horror" movie? Nowadays, vamps just aren't monsters anymore; they're porn stars. Seriously, who do you know who's still afraid of vampires? My guess is no one, because thanks to White Wolf and "Underworld" and other institutions that over-theorized vampire culture, people either want to be vamps or fuck vamps... or both.

Nobody I know personally wants to be a zombie, and no one in their right mind would ever want to fuck one. Zombies have no culture, no politics, no romantic tendencies; there's nothing to detract from their image as monsters. Zombies can still frighten people because they haven't been over-pussified.

My personal opinion: Zombies all the way!

[Ajax Knucklebones]

I'm not sure if the two can be compared. I mean, what exactly was the last Vampire flick that actually tried to be a "horror" movie? Nowadays, vamps just aren't monsters anymore; they're porn stars. Seriously, who do you know who's still afraid of vampires? My guess is no one, because thanks to White Wolf and "Underworld" and other institutions that over-theorized vampire culture, people either want to be vamps or fuck vamps... or both.

Nobody I know personally wants to be a zombie, and no one in their right mind would ever want to fuck one. Zombies have no culture, no politics, no romantic tendencies; there's nothing to detract from their image as monsters. Zombies can still frighten people because they haven't been over-pussified.

My personal opinion: Zombies all the way!

[keiko]

Vampires haven't been scary since Bella Lugosi. But there also hasn't been a GOOD vampire movie since him either. Way too cheesy. Hell they've started marketing the blood suckers to teeny boppers. bleh.

I still have nightmares about Zombies. Especially when my roomie is playing Left for Dead on the other side of the drywall. Runners scare the bejeesus outta me. Shamblers at least you can out run... or at least out run the slowest of the other survivors. 28 Days was properly freakifying and as always there's Romero zombies that make going to the mall too often a little harrowing, esp on saturday afternoons.

~K

[Nos]

I always saw Martin as more of a nut job than a movie vampire.

It's a different spin on the vampire thing, which I enjoy

On the subject of zombie movies ... have you seen The Serpent and the Rainbow? I find that movie to be pretty scary because it's based more in reality.

[malcolm]

serpent and the rainbow was good. i remember that one.

my personal favorite zombie flicks are the romero series although i gotta say i loved diary of the dead more out of the other parts of the series because it took a more modern twist to the zombie flick with it involving the internet and harping on how eveyrone has cameras nowadays even on their phones
and return of the living dead is another one i liked. for some reason the tarman character still freaks me the fuck out lol

(plus he's the zombie that should be credited for first saying the infamous line :"braiiiiiiiiiins!" )

as for vampire flicks: it's a toss up bewteen fright night and the lost boys.

i think someone made a lame indy about zombies fighting vampires a while back called zombies vs. vampires or something. prsonally, i'd love to see someone make a movie with a kind of mexican standoff kinda feel to it involving zombies vampires and werewolves. it'd be interesting to see a zombie werewolf i think.

[Rockwulf]

I gotta go with Zombies because for the most part, the movies aren't about the monsters, but the survivors and that can differ with different character combinations.

Vampire movies (aside from Duck till Dawn, which was awesome) tend to focus on the vampires and the humans are just props and extras.

[Ajax Knucklebones]

It's a different spin on the vampire thing, which I enjoy

On the subject of zombie movies ... have you seen The Serpent and the Rainbow? I find that movie to be pretty scary because it's based more in reality.

Yeah...Bill Pullman when he was still getting work. ( : It was alright. The whole voodoo thing.

[Ajax Knucklebones]

serpent and the rainbow was good. i remember that one.

my personal favorite zombie flicks are the romero series although i gotta say i loved diary of the dead more out of the other parts of the series because it took a more modern twist to the zombie flick with it involving the internet and harping on how eveyrone has cameras nowadays even on their phones
and return of the living dead is another one i liked. for some reason the tarman character still freaks me the fuck out lol

(plus he's the zombie that should be credited for first saying the infamous line :"braiiiiiiiiiins!" )

as for vampire flicks: it's a toss up bewteen fright night and the lost boys.

i think someone made a lame indy about zombies fighting vampires a while back called zombies vs. vampires or something. prsonally, i'd love to see someone make a movie with a kind of mexican standoff kinda feel to it involving zombies vampires and werewolves. it'd be interesting to see a zombie werewolf i think.

Actually, I think the Return of The Living Dead" series of movies were the only ones in which zombies went for brains. All the others, the zombies are going for the whole delicious body of those scampy humans.

[Raza]

The Hellraiser series was good for me mostly because whenever there is shown some description of Hell in movies, there's always some big-horned devil with fire engulfing everything. With Hellraiser, it's like you think, "If there is a Hell, I could actually believe these are the kind of pain-inducing creatures that would be roaming there."

Meh, I'd expect worse. Imaginitive BDSM imagery is a definite upgrade from done-to-death biblical standards, but it's far too playful to present the real epitome of suffering that hell should be. They're more like, the esoteric population of some fetish club pocket plane, dangling somewhere around Pandemonium on the alignment wheel.

[malcolm]

Actually, I think the Return of The Living Dead" series of movies were the only ones in which zombies went for brains. All the others, the zombies are going for the whole delicious body of those scampy humans.

and as far as i know, you're correct in that too. john russo and george romero worked together on the original night of the living dead movie but then had a falling out on how to do the sequel, john wanted it to be as if the outbreak was contained while george wanted it to be as if the outbreak continued to spread so they split ways and did their own things. but john wanted to put a slightly different spin on his zombies over georges so he made them smart enough to talk and use walkie talkies (send more cops) and sqwak boxes (send more paramedics) as well as the phrase brains which has because the unofficial slogan for zombies although they were the only ones who actually did eat brains because it had to do with the chemical used to create them and it easing the pain of being dead.

[malcolm]

thats another thing that was different too. russo actually explained how his zombies happened while romero never did. and yeah, the hellraiser movies wer eokay. the first one was the best personally cus well, that one was pretty close to the book and i have a soft spot for clive barkers works.

[RnR]

I'm gonna have to go with zombie films. I always enjoy a good vampire story but they come off better in books than on film in my opinion.

[DeformedGod]

Zombie movies automatically win because Twilight exists. That, and if a zombie movie is cheesy, it's awesome. If it's not cheesy, it's still awesome. They're always great, while vampire movies tend to take themselves too seriously, which is fine in a well-written novel, not Meyer's fan-fiction.

[Nos]

Yeah ... even with bad zombie movies you can get fun FX. Most vampire movies don't have much in the way of FX so you're left to the plot .... which can be pretty stinky.

[Nos]

thats another thing that was different too. russo actually explained how his zombies happened while romero never did. and yeah, the hellraiser movies wer eokay. the first one was the best personally cus well, that one was pretty close to the book and i have a soft spot for clive barkers works.

I like the mystery of Romero's zombies best ..... and Clive Barker does indeed rock

[Ajax Knucklebones]

Meh, I'd expect worse. Imaginitive BDSM imagery is a definite upgrade from done-to-death biblical standards, but it's far too playful to present the real epitome of suffering that hell should be. They're more like, the esoteric population of some fetish club pocket plane, dangling somewhere around Pandemonium on the alignment wheel.

I think the first two flicks were well done. Not too playful. After that, well, it was just overkill. And about the whole pleasure and pain fetish, used in the films, this is true...But to the extreme.

[theDragon_svDragcos]

I Have a Penchent Preferance lean towards "VAMPIRE" style movies
but sometimes a change [if?] a ZoMbIe films' of any interest...
':-)}

[malcolm]

I like the mystery of Romero's zombies best ..... and Clive Barker does indeed rock

Yes, clive is a genius with words, I must admit though that althuogh i enjoyed the hellbound heart (the book hellraiser is based on) my all time favorites by him are the damnation game, the books of blood series, weaveworld and the two volume books of magic series (everville and the great and secret show)

i've tryed to get into his more modern stuff but.....let's just say i got through about 1/4 of abarat before putting it down because i was'nt for sure if it was the start of a series of books or a volume of a current series and I like his horror works more than his fantasy fiction, weaveworld being the exception.

[Ajax Knucklebones]

"Zombieland" vs. "Daybreakers". One is about zombies and one is about vamps. They both look like they're gonna be good.....so the debate rages on....

[Nos]

"Zombieland" vs. "Daybreakers". One is about zombies and one is about vamps. They both look like they're gonna be good.....so the debate rages on....

[Brigeyboo]

Zombie movies kind of freak me out ._.;
I tend to have way to many zombie nightmares D:
...vampires are hot (nothing sparkly though. fuck that.)
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