Apple Salutes (Recruits?) Al Gore

[One Eyed Cat]

Check Out: www.apple.com

It's a shame he probably won't run. Would have made this election far more interesting.

JT

[Bikerpunk]

Fuck Al Gore.

Fuck him up his hypocritical, lying fat asshole.

Him and that libtard wanderingmind42 can bite my fat one, and I'd love to leave a Size 13 "carbon footprint" on their respective BALLSACKS.

[One Eyed Cat]

Fuck Al Gore.

Fuck him up his hypocritical, lying fat asshole.

Him and that libtard wanderingmind42 can bite my fat one, and I'd love to leave a Size 13 "carbon footprint" on their respective BALLSACKS.

Which of the current candidates is not a hypocrite? I'm interested in who can implement policies. I'd rather hear from him. This "race" is a joke. Hillary has already won.

JT

[Bikerpunk]

If Al Gore implements his fucking policies.....

[One Eyed Cat]

If Al Gore implements his fucking policies.....

Who would you prefer? I'm not for any major candidate. An election with no real competition is not a good thing though.

JT

[Bikerpunk]

Well, but for the exception of his pro-life stance, Ron Paul, frankly. I love a third party spoiler candidate.

[Bikerpunk]

But I decidedly hate Al Gore.

The dude would be some hellaciously bad juju for this country.

He wouldn't stoop to be pres, so we don't have to worry. Now he wants to be King of the New World Government.

[One Eyed Cat]

Well, but for the exception of his pro-life stance, Ron Paul, frankly. I love a third party spoiler candidate.

I respect Paul for standing on principle. I believe his reading of the Constitution is dangerously narrow. I agree on drug legalization etc, but he would probably end up appointing a Court full of Alitos. Dangerous.

JT

[Bikerpunk]

We're in a police state anyway, what the fuck difference does it make?

All I know is - any motherfucker who intends on getting rid of the EPA gets my vote.

[One Eyed Cat]

But I decidedly hate Al Gore.

The dude would be some hellaciously bad juju for this country.

He wouldn't stoop to be pres, so we don't have to worry. Now he wants to be King of the New World Government.

I see where you're coming from. I just wish there were more options be they right or wrong. I respect Hillary as an Attorney and fighter. As President, I'm not at ease with her or any of the other major candidates. I'll libe though haha. Politics is almost like watching sports to me when it comes to elections.

JT

[One Eyed Cat]

We're in a police state anyway, what the fuck difference does it make?

All I know is - any motherfucker who intends on getting rid of the EPA gets my vote.

Get rid of the environmental protection agency? why? I agree with polluter pays more than regs but come on .... we're shitting up the earth enough as it is.

JT

[Bikerpunk]

That's the reason for Ron Paul. He isn't a white, old-school Skull and Bones blue blood douchetard.

And I don't think he has any aspirations to control people, unlike Gore.

Or Hillary.

And as for that transvestite corpse-raper Guiliani, fuck him.

[Bikerpunk]

Get rid of the environmental protection agency? why? I agree with polluter pays more than regs but come on .... we're shitting up the earth enough as it is.

JT

Because I don't remember the EPA's membership being voted on. They're an extra-governmental body that makes laws.

As you can probably guess from my handle, I'm a biker. I'm only allowed to build ONE custom motorcycle in my LIFETIME. If it's stolen, crashed, etc. TOUGH MOTHERFUCKING SHIT.

Excuse me, did I vote for this shit?

Motorcycles make up less than half of one percent of emissions in this country - any particular reason to target THEM for your scorn? Or legislate customs out of existence, unless they're radiator cooled computer controlled fuel injected pieces of Jap Shit?

Fuck that. I didn't vote for those cunts, and if they REALLY wanted to rid us of pollution they'd get rid of motor boats and leaf blowers and lawn mowers. But oh WAIT, rich lawyer types use those.

FUCK EM.

[One Eyed Cat]

That's the reason for Ron Paul. He isn't a white, old-school Skull and Bones blue blood douchetard.

And I don't think he has any aspirations to control people, unlike Gore.

Or Hillary.

And as for that transvestite corpse-raper Guiliani, fuck him.

Damn Dude. Don't personalize it. We're in for a bumpy ride regardless.

JT

[VoldtaEngler]

Know what I think? I think there should be 3 people for president. One Republican, 1 Democrat and 1 Green Party.

Seriously, instead of everybody trying to vow to be better for so and so cause, they should all put their heads together instead of butting them against each other.

2 heads are better than 1, and 3 are better than 2. It's America, get the fuck along already.

Let's all fuck for peace already!

[One Eyed Cat]

Because I don't remember the EPA's membership being voted on. They're an extra-governmental body that makes laws.

As you can probably guess from my handle, I'm a biker. I'm only allowed to build ONE custom motorcycle in my LIFETIME. If it's stolen, crashed, etc. TOUGH MOTHERFUCKING SHIT.

Excuse me, did I vote for this shit?

Motorcycles make up less than half of one percent of emissions in this country - any particular reason to target THEM for your scorn? Or legislate customs out of existence, unless they're radiator cooled computer controlled fuel injected pieces of Jap Shit?

Fuck that. I didn't vote for those cunts, and if they REALLY wanted to rid us of pollution they'd get rid of motor boats and leaf blowers and lawn mowers. But oh WAIT, rich lawyer types use those.

FUCK EM.

We live in a Constitutional Republic. The only thing I could fault is Congress' inability to provide proper oversight.

JT

[One Eyed Cat]

Know what I think? I think there should be 3 people for president. One Republican, 1 Democrat and 1 Green Party.

Seriously, instead of everybody trying to vow to be better for so and so cause, they should all put their heads together instead of butting them against each other.

2 heads are better than 1, and 3 are better than 2. It's America, get the fuck along already.

Let's all fuck for peace already!

Would be nice.

JT

[Bikerpunk]

We live in a Constitutional Republic. The only thing I could fault is Congress' inability to provide proper oversight.

JT

See, we could EASILY scrap it. That would be proper oversight.

Can we get our cool cars back, too?

Now the libtards are saying the reason it got colder in the 70s was because of our old-school cool ass cars like the 1969 Charger and the 1967 Firebird.

So hey, let's revert car emissions laws back to the 1970s and HEY PRESTO NO MORE GLOBAL WARMING

Without having to drive some lame ass Euro-shitbox electric hybrid-won't get you laid in a million years Ikea looking bullshit car.

[VoldtaEngler]

1 Could have the East Wing, 1 could have the West wing..and well the other could have the pool house...they ARE the GREEN party after all . :p

[VoldtaEngler]

Without having to drive some lame ass Euro-shitbox electric hybrid-won't get you laid in a million years Ikea looking bullshit car.

What's wrong with Ikea? Leave us Swede's outta this!

[Bikerpunk]

The Greenies could NOT live in the white house, but instead camp out in a vegan wholefood yurt, heating themselves with passive solar.

LIKE THEY WANT US TO LIVE.

[Bikerpunk]

What's wrong with Ikea? Leave us Swede's outta this!

They don't make cars - let's keep it that way

[One Eyed Cat]

See, we could EASILY scrap it. That would be proper oversight.

Can we get our cool cars back, too?

Now the libtards are saying the reason it got colder in the 70s was because of our old-school cool ass cars like the 1969 Charger and the 1967 Firebird.

So hey, let's revert car emissions laws back to the 1970s and HEY PRESTO NO MORE GLOBAL WARMING

Without having to drive some lame ass Euro-shitbox electric hybrid-won't get you laid in a million years Ikea looking bullshit car.

Theoretically yes. It could be abolished. The amount of laws that would have to be scrapped is insane. No viable candidate would even consider this. Paul could be President and it still would not pass Congress.

JT

[One Eyed Cat]

The Greenies could NOT live in the white house, but instead camp out in a vegan wholefood yurt, heating themselves with passive solar.

LIKE THEY WANT US TO LIVE.

I'd have to see the proposal to comment.

JT

[VoldtaEngler]

George Washington is rolling over in his Cherry pine box right now..."What did I do..? Where Did I go wrong?!" hehe..

[Bikerpunk]

Let's ask the ladies, yeah?

Dear Ladies:

1) You're on a date. Your potential date rides up.

Would you be more likely to fuck the owner of THIS car?



or this car?




And if he's on two wheels:

this



or this?




Don't be a smartass just to prove me wrong. Which one of the two would get you wet and eager to fuck the owner?

CASE CLOSED.

The EPA want us all to be rejected by women and to therefore turn gay.

[One Eyed Cat]

Let's ask the ladies, yeah?

Dear Ladies:

1) You're on a date. Your potential date rides up.

Would you be more likely to fuck the owner of THIS car?



or this car?




And if he's on two wheels:

this



or this?




Don't be a smartass just to prove me wrong. Which one of the two would get you wet and eager to fuck the owner?

CASE CLOSED.

The EPA want us all to be rejected by women and to therefore turn gay.

I'd love to have this presented as a constitutional argument. I ride a bicycle and drive a Honda. Have a sweet date for tomorrow nite

JT

[One Eyed Cat]

George Washington is rolling over in his Cherry pine box right now..."What did I do..? Where Did I go wrong?!" hehe..

Madison would be like: "Did I not make myself clear enough?"
Franklin: "Guess they punted on the republic"

JT

[Bikerpunk]

Let me illustrate:

The choice is between

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvYFFK2P2Mw
(DISCLAIMER: I don't approve of their back patches)

and

http://youtube.com/watch?v=skU-jBFzXl0

[One Eyed Cat]

Let me illustrate:

The choice is between

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvYFFK2P2Mw
(DISCLAIMER: I don't approve of their back patches)

and

http://youtube.com/watch?v=skU-jBFzXl0

I'll take the custom Jackie T bike of course. I just don't understand the jump to abolishing the EPA. Personally, I think we need to reduce emissions. If there is a specific law barring you from building a bike, I oppose that law. The entire EPA though? Come on man.

JT

[Bikerpunk]

I'd love to have this presented as a constitutional argument. I ride a bicycle and drive a Honda. Have a sweet date for tomorrow nite

JT

Insufficient evidence:




and as for the Honda




So hey.... don't be hatin.

Even on me. I can get laid. No problem.

[Bikerpunk]

Well, point being you can't oppose the law, because you don't vote for the EPA. They simply tell you what you can and cannot do and you can't say "BULLSHIT ON THAT, JACK."

There is no "if". The EPA brought that into law without us knowing. And there's part II in 2012.

Harleys will cease to exist. No engine of that type will pass the near-zero emissions standards.

Which, for the record, is like opposing the smell of B.O. on one person standing next to a pigfarm.

[One Eyed Cat]

Insufficient evidence:




and as for the Honda




So hey.... don't be hatin.

Even on me. I can get laid. No problem.

haha I'm not "hating" on anyone. I'm just amused by your vitriol.

JT

[Bikerpunk]

haha I'm not "hating" on anyone. I'm just amused by your vitriol.

JT

They are trying, and succeeding, in destroying my way of life, in the name of preventing the Earth's temperature from going up 0.00000001 degrees C.

And one of the prime DOUCHEBAGS in this pseudo-religious movement not only wants to make money selling you oil, he wants to cash in on you burning it by demanding a tax on your way of life.

Or outlawing certain groups who most people find distasteful.

To which I say, Mr. Gore - go fuck yourself. What's going on with the planet right now is part of a natural cycle.

[One Eyed Cat]

Well, point being you can't oppose the law, because you don't vote for the EPA. They simply tell you what you can and cannot do and you can't say "BULLSHIT ON THAT, JACK."

There is no "if". The EPA brought that into law without us knowing. And there's part II in 2012.

Harleys will cease to exist. No engine of that type will pass the near-zero emissions standards.

Which, for the record, is like opposing the smell of B.O. on one person standing next to a pigfarm.

Can you show me a link to this law? And you certainly can oppose any law you wish. You need to make an argument as to why it is unconstitutional. File suit.

JT

[Bikerpunk]

Can you show me a link to this law? And you certainly can oppose any law you wish. You need to make an argument as to why it is unconstitutional. File suit.

JT

http://www.cmtabate.com/Legislative/...the_layman.htm

The relevant text:


EPA For the Layman
Courtesy of John Mullendore

EPA for the Layman

The EPA issued their final emissions regulations for highway motorcycles for 49 states on December 23, 2003. These new regulations will become effective in stages, starting in 2006 and harmonizing with California 's standards in 2010. While this new rule dramatically reduces tail pipe emissions, there are some exemptions written into it for kit bikes, custom motorcycles, and small volume makers.

Here are some of the most frequently asked questions from street riders and an explanation of what the rules will mean to you. This explanation does not apply to California.

What will this new EPA rule mean to me?

If you are going to buy a new motorcycle at your local dealer, the only things you may notice are that by the 2006 model year, most motorcycles will come with fuel injection and will require special diagnostic tools for service work. Some may have catalytic converters in the exhaust pipes. Both are in use in some models already. There has been no change to the “anti-tampering” provision of the Clean Air Act.

How will this rule affect the motorcycles I already own?

These new EPA regulations only apply to motorcycles built for 2006 and later. You will not be required to retrofit your current motorcycles to make them comply with the new rules.

Can I modify the engine or exhaust on my 2006 or later motorcycle?

The new EPA rule contains the same language that the old rule contained about this subject – modifying your motorcycle's engine or exhaust is considered “tampering.” The Clean Air Act, Section 203(a) states that it is illegal, “for any person to remove or render inoperative any device or element of design installed on or in a motor vehicle in compliance with regulations under this title prior to its sale and delivery to the ultimate purchaser or after such sale and delivery to the ultimate purchaser.”

Can I still build my own custom motorcycle?

Starting in 2006, it will be legal for you to build your own custom motorcycle. In the new EPA rules this is called a “kit bike” and it will not have be to tested to verify that it conforms to the new emissions standards. There are, however, some very specific rules that will apply to your kit bike.
bullet You are only allowed one emissions-exempt kit bike in your lifetime.
bullet You may not sell your once-in-a-lifetime emissions-exempt kit bike for five years after its final assembly.
bullet You may have someone else assemble your kit bike for you as long as you have purchased the components prior to the start of the assembly.
bullet You cannot build your kit bike by modifying a factory-built motorcycle that was certified to meet EPA emissions standards. You must start with a new engine and frame.
bullet Under the existing rule, all kit bikes are supposed to be tested and certified to meet the 1979 EPA rules.
bullet An EPA-exempt kit bike can be used on the road without any travel restrictions.

What is meant by “one exempt kit bike for a lifetime?”

This refers to the wording of the new EPA rule that allows for the construction of your kit bike and it refers to your lifetime. You are allowed one EPA-exempt kit motorcycle that has no restrictions on how and where it may be used under this rule. The exemption is for the motorcycle owner's lifetime. When and if a new rule comes out that addresses engine certification, the lifetime exemption may be rewritten.



The whole fucking EPA is unconstitutional. However, they're still there.


What's a bike that's "EPA COMPLIANT" look like?

Computers and cat converters, bulky radiators and suchlike.
Can't work on em yourself anymore, and GOD HELP YOU if you break down while going cross country.

[One Eyed Cat]

http://www.cmtabate.com/Legislative/...the_layman.htm

The relevant text:


EPA For the Layman
Courtesy of John Mullendore

EPA for the Layman

The EPA issued their final emissions regulations for highway motorcycles for 49 states on December 23, 2003. These new regulations will become effective in stages, starting in 2006 and harmonizing with California 's standards in 2010. While this new rule dramatically reduces tail pipe emissions, there are some exemptions written into it for kit bikes, custom motorcycles, and small volume makers.

Here are some of the most frequently asked questions from street riders and an explanation of what the rules will mean to you. This explanation does not apply to California.

What will this new EPA rule mean to me?

If you are going to buy a new motorcycle at your local dealer, the only things you may notice are that by the 2006 model year, most motorcycles will come with fuel injection and will require special diagnostic tools for service work. Some may have catalytic converters in the exhaust pipes. Both are in use in some models already. There has been no change to the “anti-tampering” provision of the Clean Air Act.

How will this rule affect the motorcycles I already own?

These new EPA regulations only apply to motorcycles built for 2006 and later. You will not be required to retrofit your current motorcycles to make them comply with the new rules.

Can I modify the engine or exhaust on my 2006 or later motorcycle?

The new EPA rule contains the same language that the old rule contained about this subject – modifying your motorcycle's engine or exhaust is considered “tampering.” The Clean Air Act, Section 203(a) states that it is illegal, “for any person to remove or render inoperative any device or element of design installed on or in a motor vehicle in compliance with regulations under this title prior to its sale and delivery to the ultimate purchaser or after such sale and delivery to the ultimate purchaser.”

Can I still build my own custom motorcycle?

Starting in 2006, it will be legal for you to build your own custom motorcycle. In the new EPA rules this is called a “kit bike” and it will not have be to tested to verify that it conforms to the new emissions standards. There are, however, some very specific rules that will apply to your kit bike.
bullet You are only allowed one emissions-exempt kit bike in your lifetime.
bullet You may not sell your once-in-a-lifetime emissions-exempt kit bike for five years after its final assembly.
bullet You may have someone else assemble your kit bike for you as long as you have purchased the components prior to the start of the assembly.
bullet You cannot build your kit bike by modifying a factory-built motorcycle that was certified to meet EPA emissions standards. You must start with a new engine and frame.
bullet Under the existing rule, all kit bikes are supposed to be tested and certified to meet the 1979 EPA rules.
bullet An EPA-exempt kit bike can be used on the road without any travel restrictions.

What is meant by “one exempt kit bike for a lifetime?”

This refers to the wording of the new EPA rule that allows for the construction of your kit bike and it refers to your lifetime. You are allowed one EPA-exempt kit motorcycle that has no restrictions on how and where it may be used under this rule. The exemption is for the motorcycle owner's lifetime. When and if a new rule comes out that addresses engine certification, the lifetime exemption may be rewritten.



The whole fucking EPA is unconstitutional. However, they're still there.


What's a bike that's "EPA COMPLIANT" look like?

Computers and cat converters, bulky radiators and suchlike.
Can't work on em yourself anymore, and GOD HELP YOU if you break down while going cross country.

File suit. Get all the motorcycle companies together. You have a colorable argument that Congress has exceeded its authority under the Commerce Clause. You could also argue that the EPA is acting as a legislative body. Environmental laws have been struck down on both these grounds.

I am sure Harley will file suit.

JT

[Bikerpunk]

File suit. Get all the motorcycle companies together. You have a colorable argument that Congress has exceeded its authority under the Commerce Clause. You could also argue that the EPA is acting as a legislative body. Environmental laws have been struck down on both these grounds.

I am sure Harley will file suit.

JT

Even Harley lost.

Believe me, we've tried

So as I said, any candidate who'll cram the EPA up its own self-righteous asshole gets my vote.

[One Eyed Cat]

Even Harley lost.

Believe me, we've tried

So as I said, any candidate who'll cram the EPA up its own self-righteous asshole gets my vote.

Do you have the case name by chance? That actually surprises me they'd lose if it's that dire for their business.

JT

[Bikerpunk]

Do you have the case name by chance? That actually surprises me they'd lose if it's that dire for their business.

JT

I don't, but many MRFs and Rider's rights associations, as well as several manufacturers such as West Coast Choppers and Harley Davidson, and aftermarket (yeah, did I mention aftermarket parts apart from paint and chrome are illegal?) companies like S&S, whose products I use to keep my fucking bike on the road, tried unsuccessfully to get these gaytard douches to see sense and lost several cases.

The EPA were warned in the 70s that they'd destroy American car culture. They answered, while sipping mineral water and chomping on brie that oh no, oh no, that's not the case at all, you're exaggerating, whah whah whah.

American car culture is dead. Ask Detroit.

Now they want to kill off the bikers, too. Well FUCK THEM. FUCK AL GORE and his cuntscab wife "I wanna dictate what the music industry can publish" Tipper cervical haemorrhoid Gore.