Do not neglect to vote

[The Newswire]

Do not neglect to vote.

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[Mr Karl]

the US votes quite a bit

[TheQuietPlace]

I made my voice heard. I got my absentee ballot Oct 15th and mailed it back Oct 16th.

[Morning Glory]

I want this guy to make all my decisions for me and control my life.

No, not that other guy. Fuck that guy!



But I actually feel bad about not voting for once. My friend succeeded in convincing me why it is important that one votes.

He voted for Ralph Nader. Not because he really believes that he will win. Not even because he supports the guy with such dedication that he felt he had to make his voice heard. In fact, he wrote in Nader for every position.

He did it so that when someone asks him if he voted, he can say that he did his part to make sure that their vote got canceled out.

[Raza]

Voting on issues directly, like the marijuana thing? I'd go do that.

But representative democracy isn't, and I'm not validating it by playing pretend. 'Sides, nobody that I at all supported has ever been electable, even here with our multi-party system.

[TheDeathKnight]

At least if our leaders are doing a crappy job, we don't re-elect them.
That's pretty much the only thing our elections are good at.

Like Bush...

He fucked up with the wars, fucking up the economy, the debt, etc.

So we voted him out, and voted in a new guy. Now he may be just as lame,
but at least he knows he had better make things better, or he will be out
at the next election as well.

[Raza]

At least if our leaders are doing a crappy job, we don't re-elect them.
That's pretty much the only thing our elections are good at.

Like Bush...

He fucked up with the wars, fucking up the economy, the debt, etc.

So we voted him out, and voted in a new guy. Now he may be just as lame,
but at least he knows he had better make things better, or he will be out
at the next election as well.

Except that with only figureheads of two parties to choose from, this works less like a meritocracy and more like a see-saw. No matter how much you screw people over, you're guaranteed a new shot at the top whenever the other guy fucked up last.

[Cafe_Post_Mortem]

Voting may not do much, but not voting shows that you can be completely ignored instead of mostly ignored.

Seems like as I get older I am praying more to the mantra of "don't let perfect be the enemy of better."

But if people don't want to vote, I am cool with that too. I am usually in the minority, so the less people that vote, the more mine counts.

[Raza]

Voting may not do much, but not voting shows that you can be completely ignored instead of mostly ignored.

This is why you should do something like torch a cop car once in a while.

[Cafe_Post_Mortem]

This is why you should do something like torch a cop car once in a while.

What good does that do? No one cares why you torched the cop car, they just care about how to make you stop and a bullet is a lot easier than social justice. Until people get together and start oiling up the guillotines as a group no one asks why.

Or, ask the ELF how the torching cars is working out. Hell, in the LA riots, no one cared till the fires reached the expensive parts of town.

[Raza]

What good does that do? No one cares why you torched the cop car, they just care about how to make you stop and a bullet is a lot easier than social justice. Until people get together and start oiling up the guillotines as a group no one asks why.

It's one less car at the cops' disposal, which makes them that much less effective at enacting their injustice.

It's direct action. The point isn't to 'get a message across' and convince people of your perspective, but rather to make the world a better place through your actions, directly. 'Spreading the word' tactics are well-intended, but they're too popular and insufficiently innovative to make much difference these days; the available social media are saturated with control mechanisms, elections not excluded.

And obviously, the idea is to get away with it - although guillotines are always a good idea.

Or, ask the ELF how the torching cars is working out. Hell, in the LA riots, no one cared till the fires reached the expensive parts of town.

So choose your targets on a basis of their involvement and influence in the system you're trying to fight. I didn't suggest burning a working class civilian's car.

[Mr Karl]

did someone say guillotines?............you break em I fix em

[Ibeus]

I neglected to vote. Writing some jerk's name in an empty line is not going to bring about change. We need action. Violent action, but instead of setting cop cars on fire, set oil trucks on fire. Riot in rich and important areas like Wall Street. But never loose site of the purpose. The problem is, most people aren't willing to die for change; thus, we have voting--something safe, easy...and predictable.

[Raza]

did someone say guillotines?............you break em I fix em

Can you make one like this?




Currently modelled with schoolgirls cause politicians are just icky, but I think this would make an excellent setup for parliamentary debates.

[Mr Karl]

gravity powered.....how quaint...........yeah, I could make one

[BiggTruxx]

This is why you should do something like torch a cop car once in a while.

Really? Would you do that?

[Raza]

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