Why do people think people hate Fred Durst?

[Camby Savelle]

I can't name three songs on ways to get a job, I can't name one.

Thanks for reading my posts.

[Camby Savelle]

1.what song was a movie adaptation? what movie?

2.most teens don't have access to good vegan food so telling them to be vegan is just telling them to be malnourished and not positive at all.

3.you can't even name ONE song about how to get a good job, can you? but you hold that up as an example of what a band should do. that makes no sense.

1. Jack Off Jill "My Cat" & I don't know wich movie, I don't remember the name. I'm sure if you did a little internet research you could find out fairly easy though.

2.Are you seriously offering that as an arguement?

3.Yes I do hold that as an example, getting a good job is something positive. I didn't state that there were any other songs on the subject, I simple posed why can't there be?

[karyn]

1. Jack Off Jill "My Cat" & I don't know wich movie, I don't remember the name. I'm sure if you did a little internet research you could find out fairly easy though.

2.Are you seriously offering that as an arguement?

3.Yes I do hold that as an example, getting a good job is something positive. I didn't state that there were any other songs on the subject, I simple posed why can't there be?

you do the easy internet research if you think i'm wrong

are you seriously saying it is positive to encourage teens who are still growing to be malnourished?

you did not post the question about why can't there be songs about getting a good job. you stated that it was sensible to hate fred durst because he doesn't sing about something that not one single person you can think of sings about. if no one does it why does it make sense to hate him for also not doing it?

[Venedotia]

I'm not a fan of his music, it just doesn't appeal to me. When I read the e-mails between him and Paris a couple of weeks ago, he seemed like such a wanker.

[Camby Savelle]

1.I'm not the one that needs it "proven" to them, I really care less.

2.You're arguement was stereotyping that most do not have access to good vegan food. That isn't an arguement, the avaliability is the same to everyone. You don't have to be over 18 to buy vegan food. What you are doing is trying to divert your arguement into being malnourished, wich isn't part of the arguement at all.

3.

Why does it have to be "I did it all for the nookie" why can't it be "I did it all to get a good job".

Sounds like a question to me.

4.I'm tired of discussing this with you. You don't read my posts thoroughly & disreguard any of the points I make. You're too concered about being right to think you might be wrong. If you wish to respond, please take a second look at the things you say.

[karyn]

1.I'm not the one that needs it "proven" to them, I really care less.

2.You're arguement was stereotyping that most do not have access to good vegan food. That isn't an arguement, the avaliability is the same to everyone. You don't have to be over 18 to buy vegan food. What you are doing is trying to divert your arguement into being malnourished, wich isn't part of the arguement at all.

3.

Sounds like a question to me.

4.I'm tired of discussing this with you. You don't read my posts thoroughly & disreguard any of the points I make. You're too concered about being right to think you might be wrong. If you wish to respond, please take a second look at the things you say.

i'm happy to admit when i am wrong. i fact check for a living so i have to be concerned with what is actually factually correct.

a band encouraging teens to be vegan is not a positive example. teens who are vegan are much more likely than teens with an average diet to be malnourished and have stunted development. the availability of vegan food is not the same for everyone. teens are generally not the household members who determine groceries. that is not stereotyping, that is just the structure of family in America. people in california have much better access than people in say ohio. where do you live?

[TheDeathKnight]

You guys are going off into specifics, instead of seeing the main point.
The main point is that artists can encourage and promote certain behaviors.
If a star sings about fucking everything that moves, without a condom,
and talks about how cool it is, then the young fans will often follow suit.
Yes, it's Darwinism, but I do agree that it would be *better* if artists
had a more social agenda. Rage Against The Machine is a good example.
Even an artist being angry at life, and at society, makes people question
the idea of going along with the system. Sometimes it just helps to
hear that other people feel the same way you do. But when you
sing about nothing but nookie, bling-bling, etc, then it gives a
pretty shallow message to the fans of the music. I like all
kinds of music, and I know that all music has fans.
So regardless if it is techno, metal, rap, etc, it is
preferable to have a message like Public Enemy,
rather than Easy-E, even though I like both their music.

I'm all for freedom of speech and artistic expression.
But I still have every right to think someone looks like an idiot
when they talk about how cool they are, how much bling-bling
they have, or how many hoochies they banged last week.
I might LOVE the music, but the artist looks like an idiot...

That just my opinion.

[Camby Savelle]

Odd you say that because I was born & raised in California & I currently live in Ohio.

I don't find there to be a diffirence in access, only some in price.

[BrightStar]

I Generally don't care about him. **

[karyn]

You guys are going off into specifics, instead of seeing the main point.
The main point is that artists can encourage and promote certain behaviors.
If a star sings about fucking everything that moves, without a condom,
and talks about how cool it is, then the young fans will often follow suit.
Yes, it's Darwinism, but I do agree that it would be *better* if artists
had a more social agenda. Rage Against The Machine is a good example.
Even an artist being angry at life, and at society, makes people question
the idea of going along with the system. Sometimes it just helps to
hear that other people feel the same way you do. But when you
sing about nothing but nookie, bling-bling, etc, then it gives a
pretty shallow message to the fans of the music. I like all
kinds of music, and I know that all music has fans.
So regardless if it is techno, metal, rap, etc, it is
preferable to have a message like Public Enemy,
rather than Easy-E, even though I like both their music.

I'm all for freedom of speech and artistic expression.
But I still have every right to think someone looks like an idiot
when they talk about how cool they are, how much bling-bling
they have, or how many hoochies they banged last week.
I might LOVE the music, but the artist looks like an idiot...

That just my opinion.

very well said. i actually hate limp bizkit. i just thought camby's critique made no sense. yours makes complete sense.

[TheDeathKnight]

And I did it all for the nookie.

[tinstar]

Generally, people like to pick on the guy who is at the top of his game, as Durst was in the 90s. Definitely not a fan, but some of their songs rock pretty hard. And no one (especially considering the topic of this thread) is more qualified to sing "Behind Blue Eyes."

[Tequila Zaire]

Top of his game? When the fuck was he EVER at the top of his game? His music was the shit frat jocks played as they fucked drunken half passed out high school girls.

[Jax]

what song was a movie adaptation? what movie?

most teens don't have access to good vegan food so telling them to be vegan is just telling them to be malnourished and not positive at all.

i love the cure but they are hardly promoting 100% positive messages and they certainly do sing about nookie, albeit in a way i enjoy more than limp bizkit.

you can't even name ONE song about how to get a good job, can you? but you hold that up as an example of what a band should do. that makes no sense.

Lol, theres a country song that sings about 'take this job and shove it'. Wish I could remember who it was and the rest of the lyrics, but its catchy;p

[SindelChaos]

No publicity is bad publicity. He has no talent like the many pop bands created from the 90's up. He does what any celebrity or pop band does, he looks, acts, and sings by what sells. The more dramatic or ruthless, the better. It's all about making money anymore. Nothing is really about the art of music. The music industry is falling at insane speeds. I find maybe one or two songs half way appealing and that is only music wise. I could care less about his lyrics because like someone else said above, he sings about the same things constantly. After Wes Borland left the band, that is when all artistic mind and a lot of fans abandoned Limp Bizkit. I think the majority of their fan base are 10-13 years old; when children are becoming teenagers and have little experience with music and are highly influenced by anything that is rumored to be cool. Sadly, some people never explore music, they just listen to the radio their whole lives.