I know I'm late on this one...

[Camby Savelle]

What does IBM and EBM stand for music genre wise? I keep hearing the terms mentioned and I'm clueless.

[Mindgames]

IBM = Italian Body Music (the Italian EBM scene, renamed by Alberto Brandi because if it's no Italiano, it's no worth it). Thinka kinda Voldta pizza.

EBM = Electronic Body Music. An industrial music style first created when Steve Austin sat on a xylophone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...usic_subgenres

Industrial isn't good enough for Industrial bands. Just like punk and metal, you're nobody unless you're in a genre so narrow even you're not in it.

"You're EBM?"

"Fuck no, we're Indiana-border-region Electro-Urban Gothic Darkwave Breakout"

"No shit?"

"We used to play country, but our drummer left."

mG

[Kidthorazine]

haha, yeah if you go to ishkurs guide (which covers like 100 differebt genres and subgenres of EDM) youll get a pretty good idea of how overgenrefied EDM (not just industrial) is. Oh and for the record a lot of the stuff that people today call EBM is actually Futurepop.

[inox]

There's also IDM, or "Intelligence Dance Music", one of the most condescending and pointless sub-genre names.

The thing few people seem to realize with their talk of "coldwave" and "future pop" and so on is that one must first create something truly innovative, and then later, a genre develops around it.

[inox]

Oh and for the record a lot of the stuff that people today call EBM is actually Futurepop.

Personally, I think that if anyone gets to conclusively determine what genre an artist is or isn't, it's the artist.

[Kidthorazine]

Personally, I think that if anyone gets to conclusively determine what genre an artist is or isn't, it's the artist.

yes and mosts of the artists and/or record labels call them futurepop. Its other people that call them EBM. But since futurepop is just really cheesy EBM anyway i guess it doesnt make that much of a difference.

[HeadlessBill]

I've never understood the point of genre-izing music. I like what I like regardless of what it's called.

[Lady Alias]

"You're EBM?"

"Fuck no, we're Indiana-border-region Electro-Urban Gothic Darkwave Breakout"

"No shit?"

"We used to play country, but our drummer left."

mG

Crap, that was funny. Was that from something or did you make it up?

[Mindgames]

Just my warped brain, but bands say stuff like that all the time without thinking it's strange. Life on tour makes Spinal Tap look like a documentary.

mG

[One Eyed Cat]

IBM = Italian Body Music (the Italian EBM scene, renamed by Alberto Brandi because if it's no Italiano, it's no worth it). Thinka kinda Voldta pizza.

EBM = Electronic Body Music. An industrial music style first created when Steve Austin sat on a xylophone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...usic_subgenres

Industrial isn't good enough for Industrial bands. Just like punk and metal, you're nobody unless you're in a genre so narrow even you're not in it.

"You're EBM?"

"Fuck no, we're Indiana-border-region Electro-Urban Gothic Darkwave Breakout"

"No shit?"

"We used to play country, but our drummer left."

mG

That reminds me of a lot of PA bands funny shit.

OEC

[xOutxOfxStepx]

Hum. I got lost before this stuff even got into mentioning sub-genres. I think that means I don't listen to this.

[sheramil]

then there's just BM, which stands for Bowel Movement.

[inox]

yes and mosts of the artists and/or record labels call them futurepop. Its other people that call them EBM. But since futurepop is just really cheesy EBM anyway i guess it doesnt make that much of a difference.

I tend to think it's more the labels in a lot of these cases. Although, as I understand it, we have Ronan Harris and Stephen Groth to thank for the term. I find this amusing, because that's sort of like "Neon Deon" picking his own nickname. It's one thing for an musician to affiliate with an existing genre; it's another to personally invent one for their band.

That seems counter to the concept of genre, which implies a similarity-based grouping. One doesn't think of one or two bands in that context; one thinks of a movement, as it was with "blues" or "jazz", or even "industrial" (the latter came from the record label Industrial Records, fyi).

[Kidthorazine]

yeah thats the thing with electronic musc, noone wants to be compared to anyone else so they all make thier own genres, half of which sound exactly a like. And yes i know all about Genesis P-Oriidge od Industrial Records, thats some great music.

[Mr Karl]

ya had ta ask man

[Buster Friendly]

ugh.

"futurepop"

ronan's retarded, no matter how much i like those 4 songs he does.