Does the internet render print and tv obsolete?

[Amelia G]

Does the internet render print and tv obsolete?

[Ajax Knucklebones]

I still do all three.....

[KilLAtomiK]

i dont think so, cause you cant realy read a book online. I know they have e books but you have to buy the special gizmoto read em so eff that. Watchin random videos on youtube is fun but not realy the same as watchin a show you like on TV een if you have to sit through commercials

[VoldtaEngler]

Print maybe...tv probably not.

Because of the net Ziff Davis said they will be cutting jobs and have already canceled a bunch of magazines they publish...because they consumer can find the info weeks before it gets printed, so it's no longer news by the time you get to your mailbox.

But I still do all three as well.

[Bondage Clown]

I think that as a mainstream society.. the net is interfering with print, but not television. However it is changing television. I mean AFV went from user VHS submissiions to viral video's.

But for some sub-cultures of society print will never die.

[mystoo]

i don't think so.
sometimes sitting around with a bunch of friends wartching some good tv (if you can find it) is kinda fun but not the same all huddled around a puter.
also, i really like to read (books, magazines, whatever) and i'm always reading on the bus, at the coffee shop, down by the river. it's alot easier to stuff a book in my pocket than a laptop (which i don't have anyway).
internet has its uses but it bores me and hurts my eyes after a while.

[Mindgames]

Print won't be killed, as aside from all the eBook-not-being-very-easy thing there's a growing environmental and cost backlash against replacing a recycled, recyclable, zero-batteries-required $10 book with $100 of electronics and electrical supplies. As soon we'll all be living in caves again, it's important to note that a pile of Kindles does not good kindling make.

TV won't die either, but I do believe the delivery system will move to the web almost entirely in the next 20 years. On demand is the future - why wait for Tuesday night to watch your favorite show when you can pull the entire series down a fiber? TVs are also merging across the divide, with Apple about to do a fully networked LCD TV.

The one thing that will never completely vanish is radio. Sure, people may listen to webradio at home, or MP3s on their phone, but you can't broadcast 4-minute warnings on iTunes.

[VoltaireBlue]

I still use all three.

[batzilla]

I disagree with some of the folks above -- I think that TV and internet will eventually merge... why have both a television and a computer, when they're both just electronic screens for sending you visual and audio info? Print media, on the other hand, is non-electronic, which means you can take it with you camping and never have to worry about the battery running out. Also, people have sentimental attachments to books that they don't have to their TV's.

[Bondage Clown]

i don't think so.
sometimes sitting around with a bunch of friends wartching some good tv (if you can find it) is kinda fun but not the same all huddled around a puter.
also, i really like to read (books, magazines, whatever) and i'm always reading on the bus, at the coffee shop, down by the river. it's alot easier to stuff a book in my pocket than a laptop (which i don't have anyway).
internet has its uses but it bores me and hurts my eyes after a while.

Sorry to skip you two MG and Vb.. you know i love yah.. Bat, you snuck in while i was typing this.. But i had to reply to this one.

If you can recall the age i like to refer to as B.I. (Before internet) you will notice that magazines and newspapers were thriving. Even the underground 'zines were starting to come of age. Now, you get all of the 'zines on the net, and most of them won't even print.

Porn magazines sales have decreased astronomically as well as magazines like Sports Illustrated, and National Geographic. Yes there are people who still read them.. but subscriptions have dropped so much that most newspapers and magazines are barely hanging on.

[Morning Glory]

I couldn't agree with you more Batzilla. I almost never watch TV and most of my favorite shows are webcast as well, so I just watch them that way. I think people are really going to be going that way more when all this nonsense goes into effect next year and people can't get broadcast TV for free anymore without having to buy a box or get cable.

oh yeah, and I have a book buying addiction, I spend more money on books than anything else. But maybe that's just me and not representative of the majority.

[Bondage Clown]

I can't wait till the age of books comes back around and kicks everyone else in the shins.. I will be rich.. and i know quite a few people will be as well...

One day books will be more valuable than gold.. in my perfect world..

[mystoo]

oh yeah, and I have a book buying addiction, I spend more money on books than anything else. But maybe that's just me and not representative of the majority.

I have a severe book buying addiction as well. I definitely have more books than I do friends and I kinda like it that way. I love love love my books!

[mystoo]

Sorry to skip you two MG and Vb.. you know i love yah.. Bat, you snuck in while i was typing this.. But i had to reply to this one.

If you can recall the age i like to refer to as B.I. (Before internet) you will notice that magazines and newspapers were thriving. Even the underground 'zines were starting to come of age. Now, you get all of the 'zines on the net, and most of them won't even print.

Porn magazines sales have decreased astronomically as well as magazines like Sports Illustrated, and National Geographic. Yes there are people who still read them.. but subscriptions have dropped so much that most newspapers and magazines are barely hanging on.

That's probably all true but I still buy magazines. And I actually still have few zines from the early 90's (B.I.) that a few of my friends did up. Anyway,it would be a kinda hard to have a soak in the tub with my puter

[Mr Karl]

I fix paper guillotines............that business is really slowing down but it's still totally there.....................people still prefer a catalogue they can read anywhere as opposed to being forced to go online to shop, and junkmail still rules

[Amelia G]

Whenever a new technology for media comes along, there seems to be the notion that it will kill all others. But, as has been observed in this thread, radio is still around. Television was developed and popularized a long time ago, but radio was not killed. Certain forms of print media which were once popular are either limited or nonexistent now, but there has been some sort of print media for thousands of years. I never watched TV before the internet and TiVo, but now I do. Then again, post-internet, magazine and newspaper and television revenues are really depressed. A lot of the Forbes top players are still from publishing though.

[DoctorZ]

Radio may not have been killed, but it certainly took a different turn.

Most people only listen to radio for music, or news if their on the road. Before, there were radio shows, and you went to the radio for news. <.<

I predict the same thing will happen to the TV and print, because of Teh Intarwebz.

[Ajax Knucklebones]

I disagree with some of the folks above -- I think that TV and internet will eventually merge... why have both a television and a computer, when they're both just electronic screens for sending you visual and audio info? Print media, on the other hand, is non-electronic, which means you can take it with you camping and never have to worry about the battery running out. Also, people have sentimental attachments to books that they don't have to their TV's.

You can pretty much do that now if you have big bucks enough to have the kind of screen that most of us enjoy (at least 27 inches). In the future, though, it will become more affordable, but T.V. will be somewhat separate from the computer albeit, you'll watch them on the same screen in your living room on the couch.

In the future, I suspect that inventions will make it easier and more feasible to read e-books. Probably on some device that is just for "reading books" so you can still feel that sentimental attachment. You'll buy the e-books and they'll be saved on a file on your iBook.

[Mr Karl]

it'll take something quite invasive to replace printed paper

[Mindgames]

Print advertising is the biggest killer for magazines - if you wanted to put out an ad for your new genital baldness cure, why buy a page in a print mag with a sub-100k circulation when the same cash could put your banner on a few million pageviews? That logic doesn't of course apply to books, but I think there's a slight feedback in effect - many kids "learn" to read through magazines and comics, and if they get all their stuff online for their formative years, they're less likely to walk into a bookstore.

FYI the FCC has always said that broadcast analog radio will run for the foreseeable future, simply because of car radios. You can phase out analog TV with a few years notice (as the Brits are doing right now) and folks will buy a new TV or a digibox, but you can't realistically upgrade 300 million dash-mount radios. Radio is also a lot cheaper to supply localized than TV, and folks like home-town news and reports. The issue with radio is the same as with magazines though - it's seen as a poor return for ad money, so the death rate for new stations is massive.

[Wickedanima]

I read alot more news and stories off the Internet than anything else anymore. Mostly due to lazy, I think.

[Dusk]

n, not print. what are you gonna do if theres no pwoer? and you have to wait for pages to load, whereas you could just turn a page in a book.
Plus that old book smell is awesome

[jonny.illuminati]

i like reading books... not electronic books...

i canceled my cable (still have internet) and i use netflix and the Roku box... if there is a TV show i want to watch not on netflix i just plug the laptop into the big screen and watch it (hulu or other sites)... on demand. yes i cannot watch it the night it airs, but i am not a slave to the boob tube (just the boobs)...

i got tired of hundred dollar cable bills to watch 500 channels of reruns

[Mindgames]

If the industry gets its way, the feature of PC-TV convergence you'll see next is love-it-or-hate-it ad targeting systems. If you're watching TV streamed through your PC, or better yet if your TV and PC are the same piece of hardware, then instead of breaking every 15 mins to show you ads for stuff you don't want, your TV could take a peek at your browsing history or favorites list and target ads at each viewer. It could even turn them off for a fee, or learn your preferences from a "not interested" button on your remote. It's semi-here already with "suggestion" systems in Tivo/Sky+ etc. and as with everything, the money's in selling you shit you don't need, not shit you asked for in the first place.

[OliX]

Does the internet render print and tv obsolete?

Yes for me. I was never big fan of a TV. And paper I read as much as I did before, once in a week.

[Blitz]

i'd have to say yes,cause i dont watch t.v.(mega crap)books and the net 4 me,speaking of books and t.v.,does anyone remember reading rainbow.